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 Post subject: Re: Apple, Ireland, EU, Tax Avoidance, Margrethe Vestager, C
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 7:45 pm 
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IMHO, part of the problem, part of the big system that has led to gross unfairness, morally and probably unjustly, in the Irish Taxation mess that is present.

He did a Morning Ireland interview at the end of last week on RTE Radio 1 where he played out the political line on behalf of TPTB of which he is clearly a part as the Apple story was breaking.
http://www.irishtimes.com/business/tech ... -1.2774804

One to watch out for if you come across him.

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 Post subject: Re: Apple, Ireland, EU, Tax Avoidance, Margrethe Vestager, C
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:04 pm 
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2pack. What a fucking wonderfully inept and inappropriate use of the word.

Apart from the smiling in the meetings as the ladies and lads from Mephistopheles explained how things work here..

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 Post subject: Re: Apple, Ireland, EU, Tax Avoidance, Margrethe Vestager, C
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:18 pm 
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Eamonn O'Dea
of the International division of the Revenue Department.

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IMHO, part of the problem, part of the big system that has led to gross unfairness, morally and probably unjustly, in the Irish Taxation mess that is present.

He did a Morning Ireland interview at the end of last week on RTE Radio 1 where he played out the political line on behalf of TPTB of which he is clearly a part as the Apple story was breaking.
http://www.irishtimes.com/business/tech ... -1.2774804

One to watch out for if you come across him.


It's not unheard of for senior Revenue to retire and then work for the top tax consultants....

I think the recruiters in those practices will be watching out


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 Post subject: Re: Apple, Ireland, EU, Tax Avoidance, Margrethe Vestager, C
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 11:22 pm 
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Here is an interesting list of current high tech players in Ireland..

http://www.top1000.ie/industries/technology

The really interesting number is revenue per employee.

You have to go down to number 12 before you find Intel, who actual do something substantive in Ireland. Their revenue per employee is around $500K... which is not bad. Any company whose Irish operation has a revenue per employee much above that is a tax scam operation. Which is almost all of them.

Bear in mind that MS et al also have brass plate operations in Ireland whose revenue is often greater than that of the "official" subsidiary. In MS's case before they hid it in embarrassment by making it a private company it had at least twice the revenue of the "ligit" subsidiary.

Its tax shells all the way down..


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 Post subject: Re: Apple, Ireland, EU, Tax Avoidance, Margrethe Vestager, C
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 11:50 pm 
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I see we're on the Brian Lucey twitter now Ted

brian lucey ‏@brianmlucey 4h4 hours ago

Ok, I know , its Saturday evening. But please, do read this thread on #AppleTax viewtopic.php?f=4&t=66347
Really quite excellent
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@brianmlucey @WhelanKarl "Excellent"? Christ, it's awful. It's a weird mix of facts, quasi facts, and complete bollox.

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brian lucey ‏@brianmlucey 16m16 minutes ago

@OwenCallan @WhelanKarl aka the pin. The nuggets though...


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 Post subject: Re: Apple, Ireland, EU, Tax Avoidance, Margrethe Vestager, C
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@OwenCallan @WhelanKarl aka the pin. The nuggets though..


Wait, did Brian Lucey's just imply the Pin was a mix of facts, quasi facts and complete bollox??

I guess Brian has learned his lesson from endorsing complete bollox he read on the interwebs. e.g. his Eircode screed, the deposits are an asset brainfart


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 Post subject: Re: Apple, Ireland, EU, Tax Avoidance, Margrethe Vestager, C
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 8:18 am 
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slasher wrote:
Wait, did Brian Lucey's just imply the Pin was a mix of facts, quasi facts and complete bollox??

No, that was Owen Callan.

It's not a bad description of the Pin, except he missed out opinions, wild rants and tinfoilhattery. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Apple, Ireland, EU, Tax Avoidance, Margrethe Vestager, C
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Eschatologist wrote:
slasher wrote:
Wait, did Brian Lucey's just imply the Pin was a mix of facts, quasi facts and complete bollox??

No, that was Owen Callan.

It's not a bad description of the Pin, except he missed out opinions, wild rants and tinfoilhattery. :D



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 Post subject: Re: Apple, Ireland, EU, Tax Avoidance, Margrethe Vestager, C
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 8:54 am 
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I see we're on the Brian Lucey twitter now Ted

brian lucey ‏@brianmlucey 4h4 hours ago

Ok, I know , its Saturday evening. But please, do read this thread on #AppleTax viewtopic.php?f=4&t=66347
Really quite excellent
24 retweets 28 likes

Owen Callan
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@brianmlucey @WhelanKarl "Excellent"? Christ, it's awful. It's a weird mix of facts, quasi facts, and complete bollox.

Retweet
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Andy
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@OwenCallan @brianmlucey @WhelanKarl Does anyone want to name Observer35

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brian lucey ‏@brianmlucey 16m16 minutes ago

@OwenCallan @WhelanKarl aka the pin. The nuggets though...



WTF is a quasi fact?? :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: Apple, Ireland, EU, Tax Avoidance, Margrethe Vestager, C
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 9:01 am 
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Eschatologist wrote:
slasher wrote:
Wait, did Brian Lucey's just imply the Pin was a mix of facts, quasi facts and complete bollox??

No, that was Owen Callan.

It's not a bad description of the Pin, except he missed out opinions, wild rants and tinfoilhattery. :D


So just like http://www.irisheconomy.ie, except with far less academic pseudo-scientific econometric bolloxs. Remember, when a non applied mathematician wraps what is essentially little more than political / ideological opinions in very fancy equations this does not make it "science". Or maths for that matter. It is still a political opinion. Wrapped in unprovable equations. Misrepresented as scientific.

And thats about 95% of modern economics.

At least in the old days they had the honesty to call the discipline political economy, i.e.. a social science. Just like sociology or anthropology.

Our bollox does not have affectations of self-importance.


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