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 Post subject: Re: Apollo House 'taken over' by Activists
PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:20 pm 
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Pretty cynical of the Aussies to send him to Ireland where he hadn't been since the age of 8, where he had likely no recollection of the place, no network or supports. FFS.


I disagree completely.
They had every right to.
And every reason to.


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 Post subject: Re: Apollo House 'taken over' by Activists
PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:13 pm 
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Don't build it and they'll come....charities encouraging homelessness

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victor ... edae010efa
HOMELESS people from ­interstate are flocking to Melbourne for free food, clothes, showers and dental treatment.
As the city struggles with a record number of rough sleepers, interstaters living on the street said Melbourne was the best city in Australia for its treatment of the homeless.
The Sunday Herald Sun can reveal the full list of freebies on offer from charities, as the Salvation Army warned that some well-meaning charities were only adding to the problem by providing so many services that people wanted to stay on the streets.
Salvos spokesman Major Brendan Nottle said: “We have to ask — does our help help, or does it harm? People dropping off food and clothes at all hours of the day and night, does it alleviate homelessness or does it ­entrench it?


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 Post subject: Re: Apollo House 'taken over' by Activists
PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:44 am 
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@jmc, Who was really on the grassy knoll?


Turns out it was Ed Murray, who Zappone would have know in her Seattle days. The Capitol Hill scene back then was a very very small world. And later too, no doubt. They are both the same sort of political operators.

http://www.thestranger.com/slog/2017/09/14/25415290/report-amnesty-international-requests-probe-of-ed-murrays-time-in-northern-ireland

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/ed-murray-sex-abuse-claim-us-mayors-time-in-northern-ireland-should-be-probed-36130468.html

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/seattle-mayor-ed-murray-resigns-after-fifth-child-sex-abuse-allegation/

For context to the story and the period of the abuse this comment from The Stranger tells it all. Heard the same story multiple times in SF back in the 80's and 90's.

http://www.thestranger.com/slog/2017/09/14/25415290/report-amnesty-international-requests-probe-of-ed-murrays-time-in-northern-ireland/comments/10

Remember the story this guy tells next time you hear Zappone and her ilk pontificate about "homelessness" and such like ills of society. These people are all cut from the same cloth.
er... what? After all your trawling of the World Wide Web to support your assertion that Katherine Zappone is hiding a massive scandal (so massive that it has been expertly hidden :nin ), this is what you have come up with?


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 Post subject: Re: Apollo House 'taken over' by Activists
PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:14 pm 
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DCC buys a former Clontarf B&B and still attempting to renovate it into a 'homeless family hub' for €3m
A local resident whinges http://www.broadsheet.ie/2017/09/18/aye ... the-hub-2/


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 Post subject: Re: Apollo House 'taken over' by Activists
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However he does make a good point.


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 Post subject: Re: Apollo House 'taken over' by Activists
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:23 am 
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Newstalk discussion now on social housing and queue jumping. People sleeping in cars being criticised for jumping social housing queue. A frank chat with Alice Leahy (homelessness advocate).
She gave an example of an EU national got a social house in SCD. She said it "almost caused WWIII" because it was viewed by others that he skipped the queue. She did not elaborate further except that we have to give EU nationals the same treatment as Irish citizens.
Admission that refugees are being prioritised for housing ahead of irish people on the streets. Very critical of the Councils - The whole housing issue is a mess.
Worth a listen back.


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 Post subject: Re: Apollo House 'taken over' by Activists
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:26 am 
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I'm listening to her.
That EU national who got the apt in South Co Dub wasn't long in the country she said.

People are sleeping in cars deliberately and then contacting 'sympathetic journalists' to get high profile media coverage according to Alice. The Housing Depts in the LA's are then responding to these stories by dealing with those people ahead of everyone else, no matter where they are in the queue.


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 Post subject: Re: Apollo House 'taken over' by Activists
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:33 am 
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That whole 30 minute discussion has left me a bit shocked
We all knew that people were getting sympathetic journalists to advance their case but to hear it so directly! And that Councils are housing recently arrived Syrian refugees ahead of others stuck on housing lists for years - no Housing minister has admitted that.


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 Post subject: Re: Apollo House 'taken over' by Activists
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:40 am 
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I don't know why your shocked. I mightn't have heard any of the above being spoken about directly, but I long suspected it to be the case.
I'm only shocked to have heard this being discussed on the national airwaves.

Alice actually praised the Brendan Burgess piece on Pat Kenny's TV show a few weeks ago. In it, BB called for those with jobs to be prioritised for social housing. And those with no jobs who want housing to be moved out of Dublin!
It didn't go down well :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Apollo House 'taken over' by Activists
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:46 am 
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Why do people insist that we must treat EU citizens equally. It's not the case. I had to jump through a few bureaucratic hoops myself recently



EU freedom of movement allows the Government to require people to demonstrate self-sufficiency before being granted residency. Some countries enforce this; others are a soft touch

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1.Workers’ rights of movement and residence

Directive 2004/38/EC introduces EU citizenship as the basic status for nationals of the Member States when they exercise their right to move and reside freely on EU territory. For the first three months, every EU citizen has the right to reside on the territory of another EU country with no conditions or formalities other than the requirement to hold a valid identity card or passport. For longer periods, the host Member State may require a citizen to register his or her presence within a reasonable and non-discriminatory period of time.

Migrant workers’ right to reside for more than three months remains subject to certain conditions, which vary depending on the citizen’s status: for EU citizens who are not workers or self-employed, the right of residence depends on their having sufficient resources not to become a burden on the host Member State’s social assistance system, and having sickness insurance. EU citizens acquire the right of permanent residence in the host Member State after a period of five years of uninterrupted legal residence.


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 Post subject: Re: Apollo House 'taken over' by Activists
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:57 am 
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I'm listening to her.
That EU national who got the apt in South Co Dub wasn't long in the country she said.

People are sleeping in cars deliberately and then contacting 'sympathetic journalists' to get high profile media coverage according to Alice. The Housing Depts in the LA's are then responding to these stories by dealing with those people ahead of everyone else, no matter where they are in the queue.


This doesn't surprise me at all, whoever shouts loudest always seems to get priority in Ireland, be it at local authority or national level.

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 Post subject: Re: Apollo House 'taken over' by Activists
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:06 am 
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I'm more bothered by the political interference aspect of the queue jumping. Councillors pushing people up the priority list.

I know this isn't anything new but they should be barred from getting involved in individual cases.

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 Post subject: Re: Apollo House 'taken over' by Activists
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:08 pm 
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Edel Dunne with 5 kids is 'homeless' crashing in her partner's parents home in North Dublin.
Alice Leahy talks too much sense
An EU citizen receives a beautiful social apartment in SCD.
People getting social housing sometimes cannot cope with it or are anti-social.
A lot of negative texts.
Eoin Murphy has a terrible job apparently
We need a broader serious discussion on housing
There is zero transparency in Councils and how they operate wrt to their housing remit.
Brendan Burgess's 'Go to Connacht' comments are praised

http://www.newstalk.com/listen_back/132 ... ow_Part_1/


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 Post subject: Re: Apollo House 'taken over' by Activists
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:47 pm 
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2 homeless men perished on the streets last night. 1 in Dublin, 1 in Drogheda
'Inner City Helping Homeless counted 150 people on the streets of Dublin last night - 130 men and 20 women'
http://www.broadsheet.ie/2017/10/19/two-more-deaths


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 Post subject: Re: Apollo House 'taken over' by Activists
PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:03 pm 
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Two more homeless deaths in Dublin
One originally from Lithuania
One died in Ranelagh


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