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 Post subject: Re: Apollo House 'taken over' by Activists
PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:10 pm 
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It's a mystery what's causing all this homelessness. Any ideas?


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 Post subject: Re: Apollo House 'taken over' by Activists
PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:15 pm 
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I wonder if it might have anything to do with the rocketing private rents?

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Maybe people just can't adjust to massive rent increases during a period of austerity with suppressed pay levels, high tax rates, strangled supply and artificial demand with ramped up low skill migration?


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 Post subject: Re: Apollo House 'taken over' by Activists
PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:17 pm 
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Maybe it's the deliberate policy of not providing social or affordable housing? hmmm....

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 Post subject: Re: Apollo House 'taken over' by Activists
PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:47 pm 
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Two more homeless deaths in Dublin
One originally from Lithuania
One died in Ranelagh
The FG policy to reduce the homeless numbers is showing some success. One of them was Lithuanian and might have used drugs so it's hard to know if they'll even count him?

And yeah... Ranelagh. A great place to be out and about last weekend.

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 Post subject: Re: Apollo House 'taken over' by Activists
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:58 am 
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The Lithuanian did die of a drugs overdose according to the Taoiseach in the Dail today, no 'might' about it.
No cause of death yet established for the Ranelagh rough sleeper.

Murphy was on with Matt Cooper this eve. 50 longterm emergency beds opening this week and I think he said 150 more to come in the next few weeks. And then in mid december the short term emergency beds open up so thats a couple hundred more.
Sounds to me like there will be an oversupply of beds for rough sleepers this year, much more of an oversupply than there was last xmas. But you can't force people off the streets and into the beds if they don't want to go and some won't.


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 Post subject: Re: Apollo House 'taken over' by Activists
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:17 am 
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We apparently have as many as 28 "charities" involved in homelessness - with tens of millions of Euros between them in both State and voluntary funding. And we have about a double-decker bus load of rough sleepers on average every night - most of them with serious addiction and mental health issues. (Not to mention the fact that many are from abroad.)

The notion that handing them all a "social" house (as McVerry demanded today) could prevent these tragic deaths is fanciful at best.

These "charities" (in league with far left groups) are shameless in exploiting personal tragedies for political and financial gain.

There's a very simple solution to prevent people "dying on the streets." And that's to forcibly remove them - for their own good - to places of shelter. It could easily be done but there'd be huge opposition to such a move. I have long had a suspicion that certain elements prefer to have people on the streets for the purpose of optics.


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 Post subject: Re: Apollo House 'taken over' by Activists
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FG want to hide the homeless in prisons?

The number of homeless is growing by 20-25% every year, and currently stands at 8500, all of whom are at risk of having to sleep on the streets at some stage. The amount of taxpayer's money being spent to keep them homeless could have easily built enough houses that would have prevented the rent increases that make them homeless in the first place! And the benefit of reducing private rents to a fair and sustainable level would be felt right through the economy (but possibly not by the 40% of FG TDs who are landlords)

Just deal with the Housing Crisis!!


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 Post subject: Re: Apollo House 'taken over' by Activists
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:10 am 
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As usual, Galway Council CEO, business chatty class, UlsterBank manager etc are 'sleeping out' until 6am for homelessness awareness.
Imagine that in Dublin, CEO of DCC sleeping outside to raise awareness of their policy failures!

Also ex-GAA stars are doing a sleepout in a community action initiative that shines a light on important social issues and to mobilise change for those most in need
Calling current & former GAA county players: we are a new player-led voluntary social action movement & we're holding homelessness solidarity sleepouts in Dublin, Cork, Galway, Limerick, Belfast & elsewhere on Dec 16 http://www.gaelicvoicesforchange.com/


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 Post subject: Re: Apollo House 'taken over' by Activists
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:12 pm 
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We apparently have as many as 28 "charities" involved in homelessness - with tens of millions of Euros between them in both State and voluntary funding. And we have about a double-decker bus load of rough sleepers on average every night - most of them with serious addiction and mental health issues. (Not to mention the fact that many are from abroad.)

The notion that handing them all a "social" house (as McVerry demanded today) could prevent these tragic deaths is fanciful at best.

These "charities" (in league with far left groups) are shameless in exploiting personal tragedies for political and financial gain.

There's a very simple solution to prevent people "dying on the streets." And that's to forcibly remove them - for their own good - to places of shelter. It could easily be done but there'd be huge opposition to such a move. I have long had a suspicion that certain elements prefer to have people on the streets for the purpose of optics.


Bingo.
Homelessness is a symptom, not a problem.
We have millions being thrown at the symptom, thereby ensuring the problem never goes away.
Hence the symptom persists and grows.


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 Post subject: Re: Apollo House 'taken over' by Activists
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:12 pm 
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temene wrote:
'Inner City Helping Homeless counted 150 people on the streets of Dublin last night - 130 men and 20 women'


Apparently that number has been reasonably constant for the last 10 years. Can't claim to know if that is correct, but someone from a homeless charity said it on the radio.

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 Post subject: Re: Apollo House 'taken over' by Activists
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Appeared last night on the soon to be gone Apollo House

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 Post subject: Re: Apollo House 'taken over' by Activists
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I wonder was it paid for from union dues, or charitable donations?

And how did Brendan Ogle snap that picture before the plaque was erected?

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 Post subject: Re: Apollo House 'taken over' by Activists
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How many people have "died in homelessness" due to vulture funds? Could they name even one?


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 Post subject: Re: Apollo House 'taken over' by Activists
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HiFi wrote:
How many people have "died in homelessness" due to vulture funds? Could they name even one?


Die in homelessness or died from homelessness.

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 Post subject: Re: Apollo House 'taken over' by Activists
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Long articlein the FT about homelessness in San Francisco, a much richer city than Dublin.

Short version:
-The city is teeming with homelessness, both rough sleeping and the precarious kind where families dip in and out of having a home
-Paradoxically, homeless people have come from all over the US, despite the astronomical cost of housing
-A huge city spend on homelessness achieves very little

This could be Dublin in due course


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