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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:24 am 
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So much for the argument that the Councils could build at reasonable cost on their own land. This is insane stuff

Social homes on council land to cost €500,000 each to build
Work on 54 homes at St Teresa’s Gardens in Dublin’s inner city to start next month
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social- ... -1.3636271
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The long-awaited construction of 54 social homes at St Teresa’s Gardens in Dublin’s southwest inner city is projected to cost €26.5 million, or almost €500,000 per home....
....In September 2016 the council said it expected to issue tenders to build the 50 homes by the end of the year. However, the following month hazardous waste, linked to a former fireworks factory on the site, was discovered. The project had to be postponed until the soil was decontaminated at an estimated cost of €500,000. In May 2017 the council said it expected construction of the new homes to start later that year.
Speaking at a St Teresa’s Gardens regeneration board event on Thursday, Minister of State for Housing Damien English said he had intended to announce the start date for the construction, and the company that would be building the homes, but was unable to do so because the tender process had not been fully finalised.
However, he said an additional four homes would be built, bringing the total to 54 – eight one-bedroom, eight two-bedroom and 28 three-bedroom apartments and a terrace of 10 two-bedroom houses. The estimated cost, including the soil decontamination, was €26.5 million.


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 Post subject: Re: The Social Housing Costs Thread
PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:39 am 
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FreeFallin wrote:
So much for the argument that the Councils could build at reasonable cost on their own land. This is insane stuff

Social homes on council land to cost €500,000 each to build
Work on 54 homes at St Teresa’s Gardens in Dublin’s inner city to start next month
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social- ... -1.3636271
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The long-awaited construction of 54 social homes at St Teresa’s Gardens in Dublin’s southwest inner city is projected to cost €26.5 million, or almost €500,000 per home....
....In September 2016 the council said it expected to issue tenders to build the 50 homes by the end of the year. However, the following month hazardous waste, linked to a former fireworks factory on the site, was discovered. The project had to be postponed until the soil was decontaminated at an estimated cost of €500,000. In May 2017 the council said it expected construction of the new homes to start later that year.
Speaking at a St Teresa’s Gardens regeneration board event on Thursday, Minister of State for Housing Damien English said he had intended to announce the start date for the construction, and the company that would be building the homes, but was unable to do so because the tender process had not been fully finalised.
However, he said an additional four homes would be built, bringing the total to 54 – eight one-bedroom, eight two-bedroom and 28 three-bedroom apartments and a terrace of 10 two-bedroom houses. The estimated cost, including the soil decontamination, was €26.5 million.


Saw that this morning, its nuts, more evidence of what a basket place this country is.

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 Post subject: Re: The Social Housing Costs Thread
PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:02 pm 
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Irish Times reports that six nearly completed housing units for travellers are costing€1.7m plus VAT.

VAT inclusive, that's 321,500 per unit. In Tipperary.


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 Post subject: Re: The Social Housing Costs Thread
PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:50 pm 
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Skippy 3 wrote:
Irish Times reports that six nearly completed housing units for travellers are costing€1.7m plus VAT.

VAT inclusive, that's 321,500 per unit. In Tipperary.

It's ok, they won't be taking them. The council screwed up and didn't deliver the half acre of land plus two stables with each house that was allegedly promised. The travellers' solicitor is looking into it. Meanwhile these poor folk will be forced to stick with the stables and paddocks on the temporary halting site they've been occupying for fifty years.

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2018/10 ... y-housing/

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingn ... 74178.html

http://tippfm.com/news/tipperary-county ... ew-houses/

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 Post subject: Re: The Social Housing Costs Thread
PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:16 am 
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Report on Newstalk this morning where Maria Bailey TD FG claimed that social housing tenants are being told by TD's to turn down any offer of HAP payments so as to increase their chances of getting a house. Said she had anecdotal evidence of this.

Lots of people then contacted the show to verify the claims that they too or someone they know, were told by TD's to turn down HAP. I assume we're talking about TD's from the left of the spectrum.

Coleman and Cuddihy were stunned which shows you where we're at with Irish 'journalism'. Eventually Coleman said that perhaps Conor Skehan wasn't too far off the mark when he raised this issue a couple of years ago.


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 Post subject: Re: The Social Housing Costs Thread
PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:30 am 
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heard the report on the way into work. had to laugh at cuddihy's naivety as some texter claimed a certain cohort of social welfare claimants have more kids to gain more benefits and perks such as free houses. claimed this as nonsense.

my wife is a social worker and this is 100% the case but our fawning media don't seem to have their finger on the pulse or perhaps are so afraid of the backlash wont touch anything controversial.


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 Post subject: Re: The Social Housing Costs Thread
PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:35 am 
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Cuddihy is even more to the left than most of the Irish media if such a thing was possible. The ultimate SJW. A solicitor by trade so he's used of defending the indefensible


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 Post subject: Re: The Social Housing Costs Thread
PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:59 pm 
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Next time the shinners call for somebody’s resignation over the high level of people being reported as homeless. The questions should be asked as to how many of their constituents they encouraged to refuse an offer of housing in the hope of a forever home.


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 Post subject: Re: The Social Housing Costs Thread
PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 1:49 pm 
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Amount paid by State to private landlords soars to €276.6m
https://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/property-mortgages/amount-paid-by-state-to-private-landlords-soars-to-276-6m-37755052.html

From Fianna Fáil's Darragh O'Brien....

2014 €390,000 was spent on HAP payments w/ 500 households (€780 average payment)
2018 €276.6m was paid, with more than 40,000 households w/ 25,500 landlords (€6915 average payment)
2019 (projected spend) €422m, with plans for almost 17,000 more households to be added to the scheme. (€7403 average payment)

(These figures don't make sense to me.)


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 Post subject: Re: The Social Housing Costs Thread
PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 2:40 pm 
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HAP replaces RAS. So you'd need to add the 2 together for 2014


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