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 Post subject: Re: Christian Brothers in disgraceful sale of school pitches
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:38 pm 
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Negative Covenant wrote:
We are in the midst of a horrific housing crisis that is having a massively negative impact on families and individuals across Ireland. Is there any point at which South Dublin nimbyism will ever give way to basic morality and Christian values?


We are actually discussing a similar North Dublin issue in recent posts - St Annes/Raheny. There is also sufficient Z1 zoned land in Dublin to build 120,000 units. I am quite happy for developers to build on the multiple sites available around me in South Dublin that are Z1 zoned rather than on pitches and parks. But do carry on.


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 Post subject: Re: Christian Brothers in disgraceful sale of school pitches
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:57 pm 
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Negative Covenant wrote:
We are in the midst of a horrific housing crisis that is having a massively negative impact on families and individuals across Ireland. Is there any point at which South Dublin nimbyism will ever give way to basic morality and Christian values?


er is building expensive houses in SOCODU going to solve the housing crisis :x


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 Post subject: Re: Christian Brothers in disgraceful sale of school pitches
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:50 pm 
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cyrusir wrote:
Negative Covenant wrote:
We are in the midst of a horrific housing crisis that is having a massively negative impact on families and individuals across Ireland. Is there any point at which South Dublin nimbyism will ever give way to basic morality and Christian values?


er is building expensive houses in SOCODU going to solve the housing crisis :x


It is unlikely that the houses and apartments in St Annes would be cheap to be honest.

Anyways - I live next to the park. Those pitches aren't as such public land. There is enough pitches in the park to accommodate whatever might get lost.
I don't even think that the apartments would be too intrusive, looking at the plans.

However, I am royally pissed off by the fact that the Vincentians get a multi-million payout and essentially screw the neighbours.
The traffic on the junction of Howth Road and Sybil hill Road is already bad enough. Public transport is strained as well, and I see no solutions for any of that.

There's plenty of space further north though which wouldn't be building in the middle of the park.

Housing density in most of Raheny and Clontarf is still quite low given it is all old terraces with generally huge back gardens.


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 Post subject: Re: Christian Brothers in disgraceful sale of school pitches
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 10:59 am 
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http://www.thejournal.ie/clonkeen-colle ... 3-May2018/

Would appear the tone of this thread is akin to what the judge is having to put up with.


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 Post subject: Re: Christian Brothers in disgraceful sale of school pitches
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 11:23 am 
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What are the legal implications of the Board of Managemnt being joined as Co-plaintiff? Does this mean the school rather than the individuals who took the case will be paying the legal bill?


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 Post subject: Re: Christian Brothers in disgraceful sale of school pitches
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:35 pm 
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Case settled

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-a ... 4?mode=amp


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 Post subject: Re: Christian Brothers in disgraceful sale of school pitches
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:21 am 
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onioneater wrote:
onioneater wrote:
TheJackal wrote:
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/planning-approved-for-st-anne-s-park-housing-development-1.3452709

Planning approved for St Anne’s Park housing development


This is bad news for any school or public lands in general such as public parks. Why are Bord Pleanala taking this radical decision to allow a huge development in St Annes Park in the face of strong local opposition, environmental issues and the opposition of influential non-aligned public figures such as the Dublin City Manager? Bizarre planning decisions taken in the past, in the era of local councillors making planning decisions on large developments, were alleged to have been a sign of possible corruption. Maybe its the pressure of the housing crisis that is causing bad short-term planning decisions to be made but these will cause damage and loss in the long term.


An Bord Pleanála admits 'error' in approving controversial development of 500 homes for north Dublin park
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/c ... 60220.html
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An Bord Pleanála has said it made an error in its decision to grant planning permission for a development of 500 housing units in north Dublin.

Mr Justice David Barniville was told by Fintan Valentine Bl for the Board that the planning authority was now prepared to concede to an order quashing the planning permission.

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 Post subject: Re: Christian Brothers in disgraceful sale of school pitches
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:59 am 
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I assume the full details of how this error occurred and what steps are being put in place to prevent it happening again will soon be published :x

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 Post subject: Re: Christian Brothers in disgraceful sale of school pitches
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:24 pm 
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Not if it is 'settled' . ABP are not known for introspective analysis in the public domain of their own failings either.

This ain't changed

http://www.pleanala.ie/shd/general/over ... erview.pdf

nor this

http://www.pleanala.ie/shd/general/SHD% ... eening.pdf

I would expect a revision of one or both in time.

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 Post subject: Re: Christian Brothers in disgraceful sale of school pitches
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:18 pm 
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'We're over the moon': Plans to build more than 500 homes near Dublin park rejected
Permission for the project had been granted by An Bord Pleanála in early April.

http://www.thejournal.ie/st-annes-park- ... 5-Sep2018/
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The decision to reject the planning permission has been welcomed by residents and politicians in the local area.
“This decision which follows High Court judicial review taken by the local community vindicates absolutely the opposition to this plan,” Ó Ríordáin said.
“I am delighted that An Bord Pleanála has seen sense and I will continue to fight for appropriate housing development on the northside.”
Local Sinn Féin councillor Ciarán O’Moore said that he is “absolutely delighted” with the news.
“We weren’t expecting it at all, it really was a surprise,” he said.
“Everybody is absolutely over the moon about it. We’re delighted that’s what’s going to happen to it now.”
Fine Gael local area representative Jeff Johnston said that “this is a victory for local residents and the community who use the park”.

Oh, there is nothing as hypocritical as a left wing politician. They're as consistent as the sun and the moon


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