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 Post subject: Jesus, Mary and Josepha ! LPT on the rise
PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:23 am 
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https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/loca ... 9?mode=amp

1g for LPT. I'm too sleep deprived to check her sums


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 Post subject: Re: Jesus, Mary and Josepha ! LPT on the rise
PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:39 am 
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Yeah, looks about right. There a lot of extremely ordinary houses around me that would have 1k+ charges if the LPT was unfrozen. Don't forget also, if a local authority feels a bit strapped for cash, they can lash an extra 15% on your LPT on top of the standard charge.

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 Post subject: Re: Jesus, Mary and Josepha ! LPT on the rise
PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:06 am 
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GameBlame wrote:
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/local-property-tax-must-be-reformed-before-2019-1.3171479?mode=amp

1g for LPT. I'm too sleep deprived to check her sums

LPT unfairly falls on South Dublin, who rights that shite?
Oh wait, a South Dublin TD. Fn IT is such a rag

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 Post subject: Re: Jesus, Mary and Josepha ! LPT on the rise
PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 6:18 am 
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ps200306 wrote:
Don't forget also, if a local authority feels a bit strapped for cash, they can lash an extra 15% on your LPT on top of the standard charge.


Please remember folks - LPT has never taken in more than 1% of total taxation, and barely will even if valuations are updated to today's price levels.

The average household in Mount Merrion still pays more in tax on alcohol and cigarettes!


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 Post subject: Re: Jesus, Mary and Josepha ! LPT on the rise
PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:15 am 
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werpen wrote:
GameBlame wrote:
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/local-property-tax-must-be-reformed-before-2019-1.3171479?mode=amp

1g for LPT. I'm too sleep deprived to check her sums

LPT unfairly falls on South Dublin, who rights that shite?
Oh wait, a South Dublin TD. Fn IT is such a rag


I gather plans for local councils to be self funded through property tax were scrapped because city councils (especially DLRCC and SDCC, one assumes) would be awash in cash, while rural councils would be broke. If the idea is that it's a wealth tax then that's fine (ish - it should surely be levied only on the portion of your house you own in that case?). If it's supposed to pay for local services then leafy South Dublin is unfairly hit.

As a whingey non-property-owner my heart doesn't bleed for them, but it's hard to justify the current setup from any set of first principles I can think of.


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 Post subject: Re: Jesus, Mary and Josepha ! LPT on the rise
PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:15 am 
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werpen wrote:
GameBlame wrote:
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/local-property-tax-must-be-reformed-before-2019-1.3171479?mode=amp

1g for LPT. I'm too sleep deprived to check her sums

LPT unfairly falls on South Dublin, who rights that shite?
Oh wait, a South Dublin TD. Fn IT is such a rag


well it will, unless you have evidence to show otherwise?


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 Post subject: Re: Jesus, Mary and Josepha ! LPT on the rise
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already re-concreting footpaths in housing estates, councils will be using that as excuse to look for monies.

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 Post subject: Re: Jesus, Mary and Josepha ! LPT on the rise
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:04 am 
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More fcuking around with this on the way no doubt instead of just going with a site value based tax originally.

Homeowners face up to 125% increase in property taxes

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/per ... -1.3185224

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 Post subject: Re: Jesus, Mary and Josepha ! LPT on the rise
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FG backbencher stirring it. She will lose her seat in the backlash. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Jesus, Mary and Josepha ! LPT on the rise
PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:24 pm 
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I'd gladly pay more property tax for improved facilities. Cork has a new park which compares favourably to Phoenix park on relative scale, if not absolute, and it can't be opened right now for lack of staff.

If a councillor knocked on my door and presented these projects I'd happily be supportive of extra LPT.

Sadly I'd be in a minority of people amongs a sea of 'they should do this and the other and I shouldn't have to pay for it. How dare they tax my home'


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 Post subject: Re: Jesus, Mary and Josepha ! LPT on the rise
PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:06 pm 
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jammyBastard wrote:
I'd gladly pay more property tax for improved facilities. Cork has a new park which compares favourably to Phoenix park on relative scale, if not absolute, and it can't be opened right now for lack of staff.

If a councillor knocked on my door and presented these projects I'd happily be supportive of extra LPT.

Sadly I'd be in a minority of people amongs a sea of 'they should do this and the other and I shouldn't have to pay for it. How dare they tax my home'


And you'll get the usual band who insist it's just another form of income tax, because 'it has to be paid out of income'.


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 Post subject: Re: Jesus, Mary and Josepha ! LPT on the rise
PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:11 am 
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LPT will rise by at least 60% overnight in 2019 and perhaps as much as 100% if we consider the national lowballing that went on with self estimated band valuations in 2012/3.

It is most likely there will be an election in 2018 after that magic 'third' budget is dusted in December 2017 and the LPT rise will be deemed 'automatic' according to some 'formula' that the 2018 government will of course blame on someone else, Lehmans/Troika/Enda Kenny/Michael Noonan....you know the shite already. :(

I bet you that silly bint Madigan will not ask any pointed questions of Donohue in the Dáil anyway. Not now, not ever.

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 Post subject: Re: Jesus, Mary and Josepha ! LPT on the rise
PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:51 am 
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I wouldn't underestimate Josepha's survival instincts. She made her name saving Mount Anville from the scourge of poor people. She saw off Shatter in the last election.

I agree it's unlikely she'll ask Dail questions. Her tactic will be to moan and moan and moan. An anti LPT candidate in a few SCD constituencies might concentrate minds ? Sindo gets a few quotes from angry residents associations and does headline that they're "considering running candidates"


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 Post subject: Re: Jesus, Mary and Josepha ! LPT on the rise
PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:55 am 
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GameBlame wrote:
An anti LPT candidate in a few SCD constituencies might concentrate minds ? Sindo gets a few quotes from angry residents associations and does headline that they're "considering running candidates"

She may survive simply because Barrett retires. But I don't expect any 'principled' line of thought from Madigan...just me me me shite. :(

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 Post subject: Re: Jesus, Mary and Josepha ! LPT on the rise
PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 5:56 am 
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2Pack wrote:
She may survive simply because Barrett retires. But I don't expect any 'principled' line of thought from Madigan...just me me me shite. :(


That would be interesting because he's in a different constituency.

Check your cognitive biases there 2pack!


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