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 Post subject: Re: 34 North Frederick Street eviction.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:23 pm 
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Optics were shocking. Balaclava made them look like para thugs. Now there's a slur that the government can't throw at SF anymore.

The Manchester reg was an even worse move, resurrecting Peeler eviction!

Now leaving the owners out if this, they're rightfully protecting their property, but the state looked more desperate in shutting down a protest that highlighted in a time of a severe housing shortage property is being allowed to go unutilised.

Now while the state is entitled to use force it can not use it as an argument.

The last state on this island that tried to shut down a legitimate grievance by force got usurped.

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 Post subject: Re: 34 North Frederick Street eviction.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:30 pm 
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Optics were shocking. Balaclava made them look like para thugs. Now there's a slur that the government can't throw at SF anymore.

The Manchester reg was an even worse move, resurrecting Peeler eviction!

Now leaving the owners out if this, they're rightfully protecting their property, but the state looked more desperate in shutting down a protest that highlighted in a time of a severe housing shortage property is being allowed to go unutilised.

Now while the state is entitled to use force it can not use it as an argument.

The last state on this island that tried to shut down a legitimate grievance by force got usurped.


George Lee reporting that Cerberus are due to repossess a working farm in County Meath sometime next week. The current owners claiming that they will refuse to vacate and the IFA planning to turn up to support them.

Now whatever about crusties/lefties occupying properties in Dublin city centre, a foreign vulture fund seeking to forcibly repossess land from a rural family would certainly evoke strong folk memories and sentiment in many. Sparks could be set to fly.

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 Post subject: Re: 34 North Frederick Street eviction.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:41 pm 
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Aye.

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First they came for the family home. Now it's the family farm under siege. Whatever next. The family jewels?

Outraged, Co. Meath

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 Post subject: Re: 34 North Frederick Street eviction.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:55 pm 
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Aye.

Madam,
First they came for the family home. Now it's the family farm under siege. Whatever next. The family jewels?

Outraged, Co. Meath


I'd say if they could get back the 600k odd remaining from the 800k the brothers borrowed to buy that farm (probably outbidding a few other locals in the process), then Cerebus would happily go on their way.


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 Post subject: Re: 34 North Frederick Street eviction.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:07 pm 
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Epicurus wrote:
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Madam,
First they came for the family home. Now it's the family farm under siege. Whatever next. The family jewels?

Outraged, Co. Meath


If it plays out as per Georges report, are the Guards going to protect Cerberus' agents whilst they forcibly evict IFA members....in direct opposition to a crowd of fellow IFA members there to offer support?

I'm not sure rural Ireland works like that. Would anyone even be willing buy it a la The Field? Suppose we'll
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 Post subject: Re: 34 North Frederick Street eviction.
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They had a live reporter from the scene on 4FM, talking to people and why they were marching. You could hear their serious frustration on accommodation issues.
I'm happy that so many people turned out to support this boil in the housing situation.


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 Post subject: Re: 34 North Frederick Street eviction.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:48 am 
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They had a live reporter from the scene on 4FM, talking to people and why they were marching. You could hear their serious frustration on accommodation issues.
I'm happy that so many people turned out to support this boil in the housing situation.
Yes, 34 North Frederick Street is just a symbol of an issue that has directly and indirectly affected a huge number of VOTERS AT THE NEXT GENERAL ELECTION.


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 Post subject: Re: 34 North Frederick Street eviction.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:27 pm 
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If you look at the photographs and videos from the protest at North Frederick Street where housing activists occupied and vacated an empty building, the obvious question is : whose side were the gardaí on?

Perhaps this is an unfair question, but it’s one plenty of people following the events online and on the streets will ask. After protestors marched to Store Street garda station, they stood outside chanting “Who do you protect? Who do you serve?”

Unidentified men men wearing balaclavas emerged from a van to enter and then seal the property on Tuesday. The photographs show them standing at a door with gardaí in the foreground. The garda were also wearing balaclavas. Garda sources say they are part of the Public Order Units protective uniforms and have have also said that the Garda involved would have been concerned about reprisals on foot of being identified on social media.

This may well be the case but if anyone was seeking images or an incident to stoke the embers of an incendiary mood in Dublin, they need look no further. For the gardaí to enter the fray in this manner, masked and brandishing batons, was brutish and foolish. The housing crisis is emotionally charged, and on North Frederick Street, the gardaí merely escalated the situation. Protestors were arrested, some ended up in hospital. What’s going on?


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Inevitably Una seeks to hop on the bandwagon....surprisingly I happen to agree with some of what she says...

Unsurprisingly, a number of the activists involved in the occupation the other evening are veterans of the abortion referendum campaign where they proudly documented online their dismantling of pro life posters around Dublin. I was derided by a number of contributors to this site at that time for suggesting that many of the classically liberal minded supporters of that campaign would do well to take note of the broader objectives of a subsection of prominent repealers who viewed it as a means to advance an entryist hard left agenda of rather than simply a question of access to abortion services.

It's worth pointing out that 10 years ago, a referendum on the extinguishing of the rights of the unborn would have stood zero chance of passing in Ireland. If the likes of Una and her cohort are fully on board with this, and it comes to be appropriated as the next hot ticket after abortion by the trendy brigade, who's to say property rights couldn't go the same way ? Seems fantastical now but so did Brexit and trump....

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 Post subject: Re: 34 North Frederick Street eviction.
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I'll not be sr5ed reading Una's student union take on this but does she mention that of the 5 arrested, 1 was carrying a knife and another racially abused a Garda


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I'll not be sr5ed reading Una's student union take on this but does she mention that of the 5 arrested, 1 was carrying a knife and another racially abused a Garda

Was the Garda slagged off for being from Cork?

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