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 Post subject: Re: Irish Gov Social Housing Policy 5th Nov 2018 - In a Twe
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:25 pm 
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But in relation to your point: housing policy used to measure your eligibility for public housing partly by your connections to the neighbourhood and general area. This was sidelined in the 70s in favour of "need", prioritising those with the most children, risk of homelessness, disability etc - and the fallout from this was that it provided perverse incentives to get to the top of the list. When you extend this policy to the people of the entire world, it starts to be a real problem. Newly arrived immigrants are more likely to be able to declare themselves homeless,some groups have large families, all the criteria for getting to the top of the list. And this creates resentment in the local population, and anger that historic resources in the form of tax take, are being spent on outsiders. I know you talk about a Polish person or Algerian person on the housing list for nine years and having "served their time" but this is meaningless to a lot of Irish people, and just looks like gaming the system. None of us would get the slightest help with accommodation if we were to move to Poland or Algeria, where wages are much lower. The traffic is only going in one direction and there's been no slowdown at all, quite the opposite.


Long-game to game the system to be gamed.

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 Post subject: Re: Irish Gov Social Housing Policy 5th Nov 2018 - In a Twe
PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:17 am 
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When half the people on the list are foreign nationals they are clearly over represented and there needs to be some assessment of the situation.
There are literally millions up millions of very worthy people who are in abject poverty facing tough shitty lives with and without disabilities.

Once you realise you cannot save the whole world your view changes. It is better to help people in their own countries where our money goes further.


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 Post subject: Re: Irish Gov Social Housing Policy 5th Nov 2018 - In a Twe
PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:11 pm 
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tommyt wrote:
Should nationality/ethnicity come into it?


Quite simply, yes.


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 Post subject: Re: Irish Gov Social Housing Policy 5th Nov 2018 - In a Twe
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:48 am 
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tinneym wrote:
tommyt wrote:
Should nationality/ethnicity come into it?


Quite simply, yes.


Good luck with that. Would you like to have a go at defining who is Irish?

What immediately comes to mind for me is which one of these was the more Irish band- U2 or the Smiths?

U2 - for the most part sons of English men raised in middle class Dublin.

The Smiths- Sons of rural Irish men forced by economic circumstances to move and rear their children in Manchester.


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 Post subject: Re: Irish Gov Social Housing Policy 5th Nov 2018 - In a Twe
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:39 am 
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I agree with Tommy to a large extent, the only point I would make is that the Polish lad and the Algerian lad don't have a vote and won't therefore vote for some populist cunt like Gilroy. Your Irish drug dealer type will find time between drops to vote.

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 Post subject: Re: Irish Gov Social Housing Policy 5th Nov 2018 - In a Twe
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:36 am 
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Always illuminating to observe the 'progressives' in action.

Would there be much diversity out Dalkey way?

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Social justice activist Denise Charlton has joined broadcaster Pat Kenny in opposing an apartment development in Dalkey, even though it is to be built on land owned by family members.

Charlton, a former chief executive of the Immigrant Council of Ireland, has lodged an objection with Dun Laoghaire-Rathdown county council against plans by Bartra Property to build 19 flats and seven houses on a 1.5-acre site encompassing her parents’ former home and a house owned by her sister, Gearóidín, a solicitor. She claims the proposed estate will devalue her nearby home at Bloyke


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Noel Rock TD said that the Omar family in the original tweet have been in Ireland and on the housing list for 14 years
and have acquired Irish citizenship


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