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 Post subject: All Your Organ Are Belong to Us
PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:18 pm 
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Organ harvesting next on the agenda.

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Legislation for ‘opt-out’ organ donation to be published next month

Consent deemed granted unless person has registered their wish not to become a donor

Tue, Sep 25, 2018, 01:00

Ireland remains one of a few EU countries not to have an opt-out system. The Bill will also regulate the removal, retention, storage, use and disposal of human tissue from deceased persons. File photograph: Getty Images

Thirteen years after first being proposed, long-awaited legislation allowing “opt-out” organ donation in Ireland will be published next month by Minister for Health Simon Harris.
The Human Tissues Bill arose out of recommendations of the Madden Report in 2015. It primarily looked at practices where organs were removed from the bodies of deceased children and infants without the consent of their parents.

Successive governments have promised to publish the Bill and it was included in the Programme for Government of the current Fine Gael-led Coalition in 2016.
The documentary last week on RTÉ reminded us how vital this piece of legislation is and how essential organ donation is

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politic ... -1.3640119

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 Post subject: Re: All Your Organ Are Belong to Us
PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:26 pm 
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Are you opposed to this measure?

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 Post subject: Re: All Your Organ Are Belong to Us
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I'm cool with it.

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 Post subject: Re: All Your Organ Are Belong to Us
PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:40 pm 
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Unless they harvest my organs while in alive im all for it
Then again i can always opt-out


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 Post subject: Re: All Your Organ Are Belong to Us
PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:00 pm 
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I'm all for it too so long as I'm dead when they do it. I'm already carry an organ donor card so it's no skin off my nose. The area of contention I can see is if someone is in a vegetative state with no next of kin, their life support system is turned off and then their organs harvested. Is the decision to turn off the life support taken early to ensure the organs are harvested before they degrade. Is there a trade in organs.

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 Post subject: Re: All Your Organ Are Belong to Us
PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:14 pm 
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tulip wrote:
The area of contention I can see is if someone is in a vegetative state with no next of kin, their life support system is turned off and then their organs harvested. Is the decision to turn off the life support taken early to ensure the organs are harvested before they degrade. Is there a trade in organs.

It's a reasonable question but not a new issue since organ donation is already a thing.

Doctors have a duty of care to the living patient. Dunno about here, but In the UK they don't start discussions about organ donation until end of life decisions have been made. I imagine there are cases where the patient is kept alive while a recipient is found and ready.

AFAIK the mainstream religions are all in favour of organ donation too, so I'm not sure where any opposition would come from.

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 Post subject: Re: All Your Organ Are Belong to Us
PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:43 pm 
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so I'm not sure where any opposition would come from.

QAnon. Organ donation/big state and dancing, portents of the apocalypse my friend.

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 Post subject: Re: All Your Organ Are Belong to Us
PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:53 pm 
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Who in their right mind could possibly disagree, right? :roll:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_harvesting_from_Falun_Gong_practitioners_in_China

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All the smuggies are "cool" with it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_donation


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 Post subject: Re: All Your Organ Are Belong to Us
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snaps wrote:
Who in their right mind could possibly disagree, right? :roll:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_harvesting_from_Falun_Gong_practitioners_in_China

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All the smuggies are "cool" with it.

Well done! We're only four days into the year and you've already got the 'false equivalence' trophy all wrapped up.

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 Post subject: Re: All Your Organ Are Belong to Us
PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:05 pm 
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snaps wrote:
Who in their right mind could possibly disagree, right? :roll:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_harvesting_from_Falun_Gong_practitioners_in_China

:x

All the smuggies are "cool" with it.


Is team tinfoil saying that this is the first step to Ireland harvesting organs of prisoners? I'm pretty sure there is a subsection of team tinfoil that would be happy with that in order to make prisons pay their way as the great Ayn Rand would recommend. This Smuggie wouldn't be cool with that.

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