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 Post subject: Re: All Your Organ Are Belong to Us
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:54 pm 
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I've no problem with this.
When you're dead, you're dead.
Hopefully going to save a huge amount of lives.


It probably won't have a huge impact. There are a lot less car crashes, crashes don't kill people like they used to.

So you don't have a ready supply of otherwise healthy organs in bodies that are otherwise beyond repair.


We really need to have a discussion about a regulated market for trade in kidneys, but that is for another day. :D


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 Post subject: Re: All Your Organ Are Belong to Us
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:52 pm 
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Skippy 3 wrote:
mr_anderson wrote:
I've no problem with this.
When you're dead, you're dead.
Hopefully going to save a huge amount of lives.


It probably won't have a huge impact. There are a lot less car crashes, crashes don't kill people like they used to.

So you don't have a ready supply of otherwise healthy organs in bodies that are otherwise beyond repair.


That really is the problem with much safer cars.
And car safety is going to get even better with autonomous driving.

All being said, I reckon within the next 15 years we'll be growing our own replacement organs (and pretty much every other body part) from scratch.
Transplanting from another body, along with all the rejection issues it brings, will be viewed as practically medieval.


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 Post subject: Re: All Your Organ Are Belong to Us
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:57 pm 
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mr_anderson wrote:
That really is the problem with much safer cars.
And car safety is going to get even better with autonomous driving.

Ah, there's always a good supply of motorcyclists to rely on, although they're all a bit middle aged these days.

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 Post subject: Re: All Your Organ Are Belong to Us
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:29 pm 
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Eschatologist wrote:
mr_anderson wrote:
That really is the problem with much safer cars.
And car safety is going to get even better with autonomous driving.

Ah, there's always a good supply of motorcyclists to rely on, although they're all a bit middle aged these days.

Yea the motorcyclists are the main source of these.

It reminds me, back in the day when I was coattailing a Consultant in Beaumont who had just broken the bad news to a lady that she wasn’t the compatible recipient of a kidney. He consoled her by pointing out the window and saying “it’s a wet night so you might still get lucky”

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 Post subject: Re: All Your Organ Are Belong to Us
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:59 pm 
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Yea the motorcyclists are the main source of these.


The RSA would seem to indicate otherwise...

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In the period January - December 2018 there were 142 fatal collisions resulting in 149 fatalities on Irish roads. This represents an increase of 1% in collisions (+1) and 4% fewer deaths (-7) compared to provisional Garda data for the full year of 2017.

Of the 149 fatalities, there were 62 Drivers killed, 21 Passengers, 42 Pedestrians, 15 Motorcyclists and 9 Pedal Cyclists.


As an aside, imho the driving license should have had an organ donation option integrated into its design.


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 Post subject: Re: All Your Organ Are Belong to Us
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:41 pm 
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A donor must be brain dead. The ideal donor is brain dead with no other injuries.
No good if the patient is dead on the spot or has suffered severe heart/lung injuries which means that these organs are not transplantable.
Motercyclists who don't wear a helmet are overrepresented in the donor pool.
The other main source is severe intracranial haemorrage


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 Post subject: Re: All Your Organ Are Belong to Us
PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:36 pm 
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There were a load of scramblers delivered by Santie this year so this will probably help the donor figures for the next few years.

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