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 Post subject: Re: Poolbeg incinerator - devaluation of surrounding areas?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:01 pm 
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"Dong Energy" would make a great name for a grunge band. Or a new political party.

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 Post subject: Re: Poolbeg incinerator - devaluation of surrounding areas?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:34 pm 
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"Dong Energy" would make a great name for a grunge band. Or a new political party.


or a porn film :nin

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 Post subject: Re: Poolbeg incinerator - devaluation of surrounding areas?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:59 pm 
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Taxpayer bill for Poolbeg Project estimated at €108m - Niall O'Connor -> http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/ta ... 41334.html


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Tierney snub to TDs over probe into Poolbeg

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/po ... 48561.html

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Irish Water chief John Tierney has rejected for a second time a request to appear in front of TDs in relation to his role in the disastrous Poolbeg Incinerator.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:37 am 
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Famous Poolbeg chimneys face being knocked down

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/environm ... -1.1862406


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:12 am 
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Famous Poolbeg chimneys face being knocked down

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/environm ... -1.1862406


Take them down.
If there is any explosive left, take the Spire down too.


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 Post subject: Re: Poolbeg incinerator - devaluation of surrounding areas?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 2:48 pm 
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Three Quarks wrote:
TheJackal wrote:
Famous Poolbeg chimneys face being knocked down

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/environm ... -1.1862406


Take them down.
If there is any explosive left, take the Spire down too.


What've you got against the Stiletto? It's grown on me over the years.

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 Post subject: Re: Poolbeg incinerator - devaluation of surrounding areas?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:30 pm 
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The ESB are no fools, -demolishing them would be commercially reckless unless they are in danger actually of falling down. They'll never remove the towers without planning permission for replacement, equally tall structures (and they won't be chimneys bai)


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Incinerator hurdle removed as EU body clears council of breaking rules

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http://www.irishtimes.com/news/environm ... -1.1919259

Controversial Poolbeg incinerator plan set to proceed

Great News!


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slasher wrote:
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/controversial-poolbeg-incinerator-plan-set-to-proceed-1.1919259

Controversial Poolbeg incinerator plan set to proceed

Great News!


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Finance watchdog approves €500m Dublin waste-to-energy plant which could be running by 2017


So 2027 then? :x


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 Post subject: Re: Poolbeg incinerator - devaluation of surrounding areas?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 9:59 pm 
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slasher wrote:
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/controversial-poolbeg-incinerator-plan-set-to-proceed-1.1919259

Controversial Poolbeg incinerator plan set to proceed

Great News!



Good news. If only too give two fingers to gormless

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 Post subject: Re: Poolbeg incinerator - devaluation of surrounding areas?
PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:03 am 
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The RTE story is interesting.

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But today's report points out that these costs - totaling over €100m - would have to be paid now if the incinerator was scrapped.

Up until now that money has been carried over on the city council's accounts.

But if it goes ahead the councils would earn at least €30m and up to €155m over the life of the 45-year project based on a cost analysis by PwC.


I'm not an accountant. Surely the costs to date have already been paid and are sunk and irretrievable, regardless of whether the project continues. What does 'carried over' mean in this context?

By the way this whole project illustrates how unwieldly the whole planning process has become. No less than nine separate government bodies are mentioned in the RTE story, I suspect the late DDDA was involved as well at some point.


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I believe there are penalties payable to Covanta if the project doesn't go ahead. But yes the other costs should be considered sunk.

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Carrot and stick wrote:
Good news. If only too give two fingers to gormless

Something like this?

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