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 Post subject: Je suis Corbyn (+UK GE 17) For The Many not the few
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 10:05 pm 
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Do we have a Jeremy Corbyn thread?

I have to say I like the guy. He's asking questions that the Tories don't want asked any more. He just refuses to accept the framework that they want for him.


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 Post subject: Re: Je suis Corbyn
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 10:10 pm 
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The FT gave him 2 years before he "explodes" i.e. has to be removed/resigns.

Take from that what you will.


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 Post subject: Re: Je suis Corbyn
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He's a breath of fresh air, but you'll stir up the crazies on this forum just by mentioning Corbyn. I wonder who'll be first up to attack him?

Edit: Andy wins a prize! :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Je suis Corbyn
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Coles2 wrote:
He's a breath of fresh air, but you'll stir up the crazies on this forum just by mentioning Corbyn. I wonder who'll be first up to attack him?

Edit: Andy wins a prize! :wink:


Any chance you'd respond to my questions in the Nama, Walalce thread?

To clarify, I didn't attack Corbyn, I simply noted what the FT's view was. I would think they've underestimate him but I doubt he'll bring them an election.


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 Post subject: Re: Je suis Corbyn
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Andy wrote:
Coles2 wrote:
He's a breath of fresh air, but you'll stir up the crazies on this forum just by mentioning Corbyn. I wonder who'll be first up to attack him?

Edit: Andy wins a prize! :wink:


Any chance you'd respond to my questions in the Nama, Walalce thread?

To clarify, I didn't attack Corbyn, I simply noted what the FT's view was. I would think they've underestimate him but I doubt he'll bring them an election.
It'll be interesting to see. I think the UK is ready for a real change.


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 Post subject: Re: Je suis Corbyn
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 11:04 pm 
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They are outraged that anyone seeking power would fail to conform, and the reaction to Corbyn failing to sing the anthem was like a collective shriek of: “Kneel before Zod!” - Frankie Boyle

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... nkie-boyle

As a UK friend of mine commented recently:
"The thing about Corbyn is not that he'll win the election, but that he's the kind of guy that you'd like to see win the election. You'd hope that it mobilises enough like-minded people to actually vote somebody like him into power... maybe a successor of his in the Labour Party. My fear is that if that time is 2 or 3 election cycles away, that the Tories will have so comprehensively dismantled the State - and walled themselves up inside "The City" - that the way back to a country that actually tries to create a livable society for it's people will be so well destroyed that it'll be next to impossible to turn it back. Ironically the thing that would probably get someone like Corbyn elected is a run of 2 or 3 unfettered Tory majority Governments."

It was an interesting take on it.


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 Post subject: Re: Je suis Corbyn
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The Telegraph is the most hilarious. I think they'll "explode" before Corbyn does. You'd swear the sky was about to fall the way they're behaving.


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 Post subject: Re: Je suis Corbyn
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Oddly enough, the point I got from the FT podcast was that it would be likes of those things (not singing the anthem, paying respects to enemies, not being tough on crime, not backing the troops, not supporting trident) that would be his undoing more so than his fiscal proposals.

The thesis being that the average guy will more easily understand this items than tax policy or wide scale nationalisations, increasing welfare etc.


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 Post subject: Re: Je suis Corbyn
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Parallels with Tsipras. Optimism and good intentions followed by defeat by the status quo.

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 Post subject: Re: Je suis Corbyn
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Eschatologist wrote:
Parallels with Tsipras. Optimism and good intentions followed by defeat by the status quo.


This sums it up for me. Seems an honourable and principled guy but he's probably too left leaning for the uk electorate these days, plus as another poster said, is likely to commit many gaffes which the uk media will spin like 90


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