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 Post subject: Re: Je suis Corbyn (+UK GE 17) For The Many not the few
PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:43 pm 
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Oh dear. The Tory attempt to smear Jeremy Corbyn as a traitor has come badly unstuck.

4 minutes long. Well worth watching.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05ywy1h

The Tories and the tabloids are waging war against the people and the sooner the people say 'enough!' and start fighting back the better.

A true WTF moment in British politics. Completely self inflicted as well, the Tories led on by the Daily Wail, et al. Talk of betrayal and traitors can and will backfire and if not used responsibly.
Whats the worst that Corbyn is going to do? Nationalise the fucking railways? "Next stop, Lubyanka!"
And yet the bloody Russians are the ones that pushed on Brexit.
The whole thing is bonkers.
The tabloids are deliberately creating the a climate of hate that will have Jeremy Corbyn murdered. I have absolutely no doubt about it.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... emy-corbyn
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... pathy.html
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-scot ... 8578134576


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 Post subject: Re: Je suis Corbyn (+UK GE 17) For The Many not the few
PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:50 pm 
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Coles2 wrote:
london_irish wrote:
Coles2 wrote:
Oh dear. The Tory attempt to smear Jeremy Corbyn as a traitor has come badly unstuck.

4 minutes long. Well worth watching.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05ywy1h

The Tories and the tabloids are waging war against the people and the sooner the people say 'enough!' and start fighting back the better.

A true WTF moment in British politics. Completely self inflicted as well, the Tories led on by the Daily Wail, et al. Talk of betrayal and traitors can and will backfire and if not used responsibly.
Whats the worst that Corbyn is going to do? Nationalise the fucking railways? "Next stop, Lubyanka!"
And yet the bloody Russians are the ones that pushed on Brexit.
The whole thing is bonkers.
The tabloids are deliberately creating the a climate of hate that will have Jeremy Corbyn murdered. I have absolutely no doubt about it.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... emy-corbyn
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... pathy.html
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-scot ... 8578134576

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 Post subject: Re: Je suis Corbyn (+UK GE 17) For The Many not the few
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:08 pm 
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I like to keep an eye on the UKpolitics Reddit and the FT comment sections at work and tbh from the minute the story broke nobody was buying it, I mean nobody . Everybody was asking straight away WTF the Tories/Mail/Express were thinking, I hope this turns into a major thing but alas it will probably be forgotten about this time next week.


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 Post subject: Re: Je suis Corbyn (+UK GE 17) For The Many not the few
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:11 pm 
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I like to keep an eye on the UKpolitics Reddit and the FT comment sections at work and tbh from the minute the story broke nobody was buying it, I mean nobody . Everybody was asking straight away WTF the Tories/Mail/Express were thinking, I hope this turns into a major thing but alas it will probably be forgotten about this time next week.

This time next week, the main story will be "It's bloody freezing!"

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 Post subject: Re: Je suis Corbyn (+UK GE 17) For The Many not the few
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... spy-claims
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The Conservative MP Ben Bradley has apologised unreservedly and will make a substantial donation to charity for a tweet making claims about Jeremy Corbyn’s links to cold war spies, the Labour party said.

Bradley, who has more than 4,000 followers on Twitter, alleged on Monday that Corbyn had “sold British secrets to communist spies”. The tweet, which has since been deleted, followed newspaper reports claiming that Corbyn gave information to a spy during the cold war.

Corbyn was alleged to have met Ján Sarkocy, a Czechoslovakian diplomat in London who was expelled as a spy in the 1980s. Corbyn rejected the allegations as “ridiculous smears”.

Labour said on Saturday that Bradley, 28, had agreed never to repeat the allegations.


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 Post subject: Re: Je suis Corbyn (+UK GE 17) For The Many not the few
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:37 pm 
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As Expected, the next Prime Minister? will oversee little change in March 2019:

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Corbyn confirms Labour would seek a customs unions with EU

Labour would seek a final deal that gives full access to European markets and maintains the benefits of the single market and the customs union as the Brexit Secretary, David Davis promised in the House of Commons, with no new impediments to trade and no reduction in rights, standards and protections.

We have long argued that a customs union is a viable option for the final deal. So Labour would seek to negotiate a new comprehensive UK-EU customs union to ensure that there are no tariffs with Europe and to help avoid any need for a hard border in Northern Ireland.


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2018/feb/26/brexit-tories-lash-out-at-corbyn-as-he-backs-staying-in-customs-union-with-eu-politics-live

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 Post subject: Re: Je suis Corbyn (+UK GE 17) For The Many not the few
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:02 pm 
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Coles2 wrote:
london_irish wrote:
Coles2 wrote:
Oh dear. The Tory attempt to smear Jeremy Corbyn as a traitor has come badly unstuck.

4 minutes long. Well worth watching.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05ywy1h

The Tories and the tabloids are waging war against the people and the sooner the people say 'enough!' and start fighting back the better.

A true WTF moment in British politics. Completely self inflicted as well, the Tories led on by the Daily Wail, et al. Talk of betrayal and traitors can and will backfire and if not used responsibly.
Whats the worst that Corbyn is going to do? Nationalise the fucking railways? "Next stop, Lubyanka!"
And yet the bloody Russians are the ones that pushed on Brexit.
The whole thing is bonkers.
The tabloids are deliberately creating the a climate of hate that will have Jeremy Corbyn murdered. I have absolutely no doubt about it.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... emy-corbyn
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... pathy.html
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-scot ... 8578134576


Andrew Neil, not a noted Trotskyite.

This is a sign of how the wider pressures on the UK - self-inflicted Brexit mess; general decline in global standing - are stressing the establishment to the point where they go a bit off the reservation. They are in danger of heading the way of the US where people were saying Obama was (literally) the anti-Christ etc. or that Bush is a scheming, irredeemable evil-doer. The middle-ground sober centrists seem to be on the sidelines.

Politically, some of Corbyn's views are out of the mainstream and not to my taste, but if he's elected by his electorate then you'd like to think he'd be respected by his own parliament at least on the most basic level.

To be fair to Corbyn, he has personally been fairly decent to others and never resorted to peddling baseless conspiracy theories about opponents. Maybe he will be the new centre after all...


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 Post subject: Re: Je suis Corbyn (+UK GE 17) For The Many not the few
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:41 pm 
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Politically, some of Corbyn's views are out of the mainstream and not to my taste, but if he's elected by his electorate then you'd like to think he'd be respected by his own parliament at least on the most basic level.

To be fair to Corbyn, he has personally been fairly decent to others and never resorted to peddling baseless conspiracy theories about opponents. Maybe he will be the new centre after all...


The thing is, a huge chunk of his own MPs don't rate him. His parliament could be equally divided and get nothing done.

What's interesting to watch is how Corbyn can be seen as "decent to his opponents", yet pretty nasty things get done in Corbyn's name, but that he can say he has nothing to do with e.g. Entryist tactics at constituency level and shouting down and deselecting anti Corbyn MPs. He can be depicted as this sinless leader, but nasty things just seem to get done. Pretty eerie IMO

What's the Guardian's view of him these days ? I used to buy it on a Friday but not lately


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 Post subject: Re: Je suis Corbyn (+UK GE 17) For The Many not the few
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 6:14 pm 
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I Gotta think Corbyn's team were clever at moving the discussion on with his latest meeting, breaking bread with the Jewdas group at Passover. Of course the Blairites come out of the woodwork to attack him for meeting this Jewish Group, but this is getting very silly now. Monty Python could have had a field day with some of this material.

By way of background of course, Corbyn was ordained by Momentum. Many at the top of Momentum are Jewish themselves.

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Labour anti-Semitism row: What is Jewdas and why is Jeremy Corbyn under fire for Jewish group meeting?
Allegations linking Mr Corbyn to anti-Semitism were "the work of cynical manipulations by people whose express loyalty is to the Conservative Party and the right wing of the Labour Party", the group added.

A spokesman for Mr Corbyn said he attended an event to mark the ritual feast of Seder on Monday with Jewish people from his constituency in a personal capacity and not in his official role as Labour leader.

"Jeremy was invited to a Passover Seder with Jewish members of his local community," he said.

The Campaign Against Antisemitism described Mr Corbyn's attendance at Monday's event as "a very clear two fingered salute at mainstream British Jewry".


https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/labour-antisemitism-row-what-is-jewdas-and-why-is-jeremy-corbyn-under-fire-for-jewish-group-meeting-a3804856.html

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 Post subject: Re: Je suis Corbyn (+UK GE 17) For The Many not the few
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:17 pm 
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I am definitely not a Corbyn fan, but the media furore of the last couple of days is faintly ridiculous. He was a raving anti-Semite, but now it seems he just likes the wrong sort of Jews -- the nasty anti-Zionist ones that object to Palestinians getting shot in the back.

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