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 Post subject: The 8th Amendment
PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:01 am 
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Let's try and keep the madness contained to a single thread.

Here it is from Wikipedia.

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 Post subject: Re: The 8th Amendment
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A history of polling on the issue (from the IFPA who presumably support repealing):

https://www.ifpa.ie/Hot-Topics/Abortion/Public-Opinion

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 Post subject: Re: The 8th Amendment
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Best of luck keeping this thread from being derailed mantissa.

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 Post subject: Re: The 8th Amendment
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Just to kick things off...

I was discussing this with a lady who would be fairly pro-life.
Her thinking is that as soon as "Pregnant" show up on the test kit, well then there's a human inside you.

I'm pro-choice, and by choice I mean it's the woman's choice.

I just cant see a situation where the man has the choice.
I can understand the man being in the conversation, and having a 49.999% say, but the balance of power is with the woman.

The conversation stopped there. Politely.


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 Post subject: Re: The 8th Amendment
PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:24 am 
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Good luck keeping this thread clean.

I wish they would just let us get on and vote on the issue instead of kicking the can down the road and avoiding it as much as they possibly can.

I'm pro life I think life is great, I love it. It's pretty fun.

As for the 8th amendment, it is a blunt horrible amendment which causes the direct unnesisary suffering to a lot of women and prevents them from accessing safe services which they clearly want.

Worst of all the 8th amendment is directly discriminatory between rich and poor. Those that have means and can travel or have a friend in Northern Ireland can access the full range of abortion services, those that can't (the poor, those in the care of the state including asylum seekers) are prevented. That's plainly unfair and discriminatory. For that reason alone it should be repealed.

So on the issue of the 8th I'm pro repeal.

Keeping this on topic I'm not going to advocate abortion access, the merits or dismerits of it. That's not what this thread is about.

The issue is the 8th. It should be repealed as it is a bad piece of discriminatory legislation. I would go further to suggest it shouldn't be replaced by anything as quite simply access to or preventing access to medical treatment shouldn't be in the constitution it should be dealt with legislatively.

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 Post subject: Re: The 8th Amendment
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@TI, +1. I fully agree. It's bad law and needs to go.


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 Post subject: Re: The 8th Amendment
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As a man no one protests my access to to vasectomies which is termination of my part of the reproductive process.

If I'm allowed to make such a selfish decision then why not the right be extended to all regardless of gender?

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 Post subject: Re: The 8th Amendment
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catbear wrote:
As a man no one protests my access to to vasectomies which is termination of my part of the reproductive process.

If I'm allowed to make such a selfish decision then why not the right be extended to all regardless of gender?

The female equivalent is called a tubal ligation and is perfectly legal. But if you want to start a campaign to legalise vasectomies for women, go right ahead. You never know how far a wacky idea will get with all the modern gender confusion.

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 Post subject: Re: The 8th Amendment
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A relative of mine left the church in tears just this Sunday gone after, in place of the homily, the priest allowed a pro life advocate up to have their say.

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 Post subject: Re: The 8th Amendment
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Dubhgeannain wrote:
A relative of mine left the church in tears just this Sunday gone after, in place of the homily, the priest allowed a pro life advocate up to have their say.

Apart from the priest isn't supposed to be allowed to delegate the homily, why were they in tears?

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