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 Post subject: Re: New National Maternity Hospital
PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 10:46 am 
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yoganmahew wrote:
Col. Max Pyatnitski wrote:
The private-medicine element of this is being under-discussed.
A nuns-run hospital will include private medical facilities on the grounds, which means consultants having private rooms and the whole co-mingling of public and private medicine that we see across the Irish system.
A fully publicly owned hospital would interact with that in a different way.

Every hospital, I believe, includes private rooms on the grounds. It's a source of income to the hospital...

And consultants :)


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 Post subject: Re: New National Maternity Hospital
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yoganmahew wrote:
Col. Max Pyatnitski wrote:
The private-medicine element of this is being under-discussed.
A nuns-run hospital will include private medical facilities on the grounds, which means consultants having private rooms and the whole co-mingling of public and private medicine that we see across the Irish system.
A fully publicly owned hospital would interact with that in a different way.

Every hospital, I believe, includes private rooms on the grounds. It's a source of income to the hospital...

Is it not actually better to have a separate private hospital on the grounds?

The alternative is to have private patients in the public hospital.

With a separate private hospital private patients can be accommodated in the private hospital and won't then take up any of the resource or bed space in the public. The public can fully concentrate on public patients without any co-mingling and competition for resources?

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 Post subject: Re: New National Maternity Hospital
PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 10:53 am 
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DSE3Br wrote:
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Will this new charity have a catholic ethos a la Edmund Rice Trust? AKA a fudge.

It would appear not, I'm pleasantly surprised...
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/s ... -1.3100852

Agreed, it is quite unexpected.

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 Post subject: Re: New National Maternity Hospital
PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:44 am 
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Permission granted for new National Maternity Hospital

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An Bord Pleanála has given the go-ahead for the new National Maternity Hospital at the St Vincent's Hospital site.

The permission approves the building of a 244-bed hospital at the Dublin site.

The new hospital will be built at an estimated cost of €300 million.

Proceeds from the sale of the current Holles Street Hospital will go towards the cost of the new facility.

The design of the new hospital will ensure that every patient has their own room and bathroom


https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0831/90120 ... -hospital/

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 Post subject: Re: New National Maternity Hospital
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Chances of it coming in on time at €300 million ?


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 Post subject: Re: New National Maternity Hospital
PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:01 am 
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mr_anderson wrote:
Chances of it coming in on time at €300 million ?

Chances of it coming in at 600 million are 50/50

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 Post subject: Re: New National Maternity Hospital
PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:23 pm 
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werpen wrote:
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Chances of it coming in on time at €300 million ?

Chances of it coming in at 600 million are 50/50

Sloppy Journalism, 300m was for a green field site.

650m is the probable cost. The current NMH site will be sold to help pay for the new NMH.

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 Post subject: Re: New National Maternity Hospital
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:43 pm 
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ST NEWS: Directors of new company that will take over ownership of St Vincent’s campus in Dublin, where the National Maternity Hospital is to be relocated, will be obliged to uphold the “values and vision” of Mary Aikenhead, founder of the Religious Sisters of Charity

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 Post subject: Re: New National Maternity Hospital
PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:15 am 
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Terra Incognita wrote:
werpen wrote:
mr_anderson wrote:
Chances of it coming in on time at €300 million ?

Chances of it coming in at 600 million are 50/50

Sloppy Journalism, 300m was for a green field site.

650m is the probable cost. The current NMH site will be sold to help pay for the new NMH.

Apply the usual formula for major government projects: take the initial estimate, double it, now double it again. Add the number you first thought of. Add the cost of the Commission of Inquiry. Borrow it all at negative interest rates!

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/ ... -1.3730712

That comes to almost 3 Million Euro per bed. I blame the nuns! All those lay professionals are working pro bono - who would want to profit from sick children :nin


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 Post subject: Re: New National Maternity Hospital
PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:36 am 
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This just exposes, again, the stupidity of procyclical spending.

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