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 Post subject: Re: The 8th Amendment thread -- who said what
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 12:31 pm 
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I participated in dialogue elsewhere on the internet but with the shite I saw posted here I mostly just walked away.


I eventually came to the same conclusion, it just took me 100+ posts to get there :-D

That's one reason I want to do the analysis over time. I wonder how many people just gave up on the discussion.

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 Post subject: Re: The 8th Amendment thread -- who said what
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 12:35 pm 
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My motive for participating was to make clear that misogynistic views will not, and should not, go unchallenged. Did I expect to ever make them understand my viewpoint? No. However, there may well have been plenty of people reading, but not participating, and I felt it important that there not be a corner of the internet where women, and their rights, could be trashed without question. It was, of course, a futile thread in terms of the participants ability/willingness to actually engage at all, let alone constructively, but it may have had an impact on unknown readers. I hope, at least, that those with misogynistic tendencies (readers) took away an understanding that women will not entertain their views anymore. Expect push back.


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 Post subject: Re: The 8th Amendment thread -- who said what
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 12:43 pm 
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imho that's 1 problem /w internet & internet discussions & info society we are living in 2018...

How do you know it's shite?...you have to read it 1st and engage to understand what's being said.
If you take 1 look at discussion and say no, not getting involved... you can't fairly criticize discussion.

Then if you go to where you find discussions you agree with... you're living in a filter bubble.

its a catch 22, time is valuable too.


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 Post subject: Re: The 8th Amendment thread -- who said what
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 12:47 pm 
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This is fantastic, thanks Mantissa.

I'm v surprised there were only 100 from Open Window :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: The 8th Amendment thread -- who said what
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 1:32 pm 
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croquette wrote:
My motive for participating was to make clear that misogynistic views will not, and should not, go unchallenged. Did I expect to ever make them understand my viewpoint? No.

I don't recall seeing any misogynistic views on the thread. I did see some people who think it's misogynistic to say that killing babies is bad.

Did I expect them to understand my viewpoint? Sure I did. It's not difficult to take the time to understand another person's viewpoint. I certainly understood theirs -- the abortion debate really isn't that complex.

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 Post subject: Re: The 8th Amendment thread -- who said what
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 1:35 pm 
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This is fantastic, thanks Mantissa.


Indeed, well done to Mantissa Analytica for taking the time and effort to crunch the numbers. The y/n %'s were very interesting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_intelligence


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 Post subject: Re: The 8th Amendment thread -- who said what
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 1:47 pm 
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Thanks Mantissa, it was interesting to consider and I was surprised I even made that many posts. I looked back over it and probably contributed more at the start than at the end. I think from the reports of the Citizens Assembly onwards I felt the matters raised and discussed there covered all my voting concerns and probably felt little need to trash it out here.

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 Post subject: Re: The 8th Amendment thread -- who said what
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 2:13 pm 
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It was nice to see that the pinsters i admire live in the same locality. I better be nice to the strangers I bump into when oot'n'aboot.

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 Post subject: Re: The 8th Amendment thread -- who said what
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 2:29 pm 
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Thing Fish wrote:
It was nice to see that the pinsters i admire live in the same locality. I better be nice to the strangers I bump into when oot'n'aboot.


When was this revealed?


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 Post subject: Re: The 8th Amendment thread -- who said what
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 2:38 pm 
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I dropped out at some point and reappeared a couple of weeks before the vote. I dropped out because it was clearly going nowhere, took a breather and reappeared because I felt that a lot of what was being said was just wrong and that it shouldn’t be left unchallenged so soon before the vote.

Mantissa, thanks. Very interesting.

( @ps If you could quit trolling me now, that would be great. Thanks.)


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 Post subject: Re: The 8th Amendment thread -- who said what
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 3:08 pm 
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croquette wrote:
I dropped out at some point and reappeared a couple of weeks before the vote. I dropped out because it was clearly going nowhere, took a breather and reappeared because I felt that a lot of what was being said was just wrong and that it shouldn’t be left unchallenged so soon before the vote.

Mantissa, thanks. Very interesting.

( @ps If you could quit trolling me now, that would be great. Thanks.)


Big thanks to you for all your comprehensive contributions


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 Post subject: Re: The 8th Amendment thread -- who said what
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 3:16 pm 
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jess wrote:
I participated in dialogue elsewhere on the internet but with the shite I saw posted here I mostly just walked away.


indeed i should have bowed out i cant believe i posted that much, but some posters moved me from not really s caring that much but leaning to no, to definitely no.

but you are right, there was a lot of shite posted, unfortunately i took the bait :oops:

also not sure where the charge of misogyny comes from, maybe disagreeing with a female poster makes one a misogynist ?


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 Post subject: Re: The 8th Amendment thread -- who said what
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 3:18 pm 
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Got to say though JMC delivered. I always come away from those posts thinking I've just been in a Tom Clancy novel.

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 Post subject: Re: The 8th Amendment thread -- who said what
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 3:20 pm 
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purple24 wrote:
Thing Fish wrote:
It was nice to see that the pinsters i admire live in the same locality. I better be nice to the strangers I bump into when oot'n'aboot.


When was this revealed?


it wasnt but we all leave hints :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: The 8th Amendment thread -- who said what
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 3:31 pm 
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This is fantastic, thanks Mantissa.

I'm v surprised there were only 100 from Open Window :lol:

There was always a subtext to his postings that perhaps meant they weighed more heavily on the conversation than others. :nin
As for 10 people shouting in a room, that seemed to reflect the campaign at large. Around the same number of personalities come to mind from both sides, total.
Am surprised I made the top 10 TBH.


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