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 Post subject: Re: A Post 8th Amendment world.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:43 pm 
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What would happen if the next President refused to sign abortion legalization into law?

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 Post subject: Re: A Post 8th Amendment world.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 8:20 am 
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Mossy_Heneberry wrote:
What would happen if the next President refused to sign abortion legalization into law?

Ah Mossy, we had these discussions before on the bailout bill. That's not how the presidency works. The President can refer a bill to the supreme court for consitutionality check, but that's it.

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 Post subject: Re: A Post 8th Amendment world.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:49 pm 
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yoganmahew wrote:
Mossy_Heneberry wrote:
What would happen if the next President refused to sign abortion legalization into law?

Ah Mossy, we had these discussions before on the bailout bill. That's not how the presidency works. The President can refer a bill to the supreme court for consitutionality check, but that's it.


More accurately: The president cannot legally refuse to sign a bill. If they just physically refused to sign a bill, like "You can't make me, nah nah nah nah" (and it could be any bill, doesn't matter at all which) it would be a gross violation of the constitution and should lead to the Oireachtas removing him or her for "stated misbehaviour".

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 Post subject: Re: A Post 8th Amendment world.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:59 pm 
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Mantissa wrote:
yoganmahew wrote:
Mossy_Heneberry wrote:
What would happen if the next President refused to sign abortion legalization into law?

Ah Mossy, we had these discussions before on the bailout bill. That's not how the presidency works. The President can refer a bill to the supreme court for consitutionality check, but that's it.


More accurately: The president cannot legally refuse to sign a bill. If they just physically refused to sign a bill, like "You can't make me, nah nah nah nah" (and it could be any bill, doesn't matter at all which) it would be a gross violation of the constitution and should lead to the Oireachtas removing him or her for "stated misbehaviour".

As well as being totally undemocratic.

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 Post subject: Re: A Post 8th Amendment world.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:38 pm 
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I'll pop this here and let it sink in.

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Minister for Health Simon Harris has said he wants to make sure women from Northern Ireland can access abortion services in the Republic.

Mr Harris is meeting representatives of organisations from Northern Ireland who are in favour of abortion.

He said women in Northern Ireland can already access healthcare in Ireland across a range of areas and it is "appropriate and important" that they can access abortion services rather than travel by train or boat to Britain.

Mr Harris said he is working to pass legislation by the Dáil Christmas break with a view to services commencing in January.

He said it is "a matter of great regret" that women on the whole island of Ireland cannot access healthcare in relation to crisis pregnancy situations.

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2018/11 ... -abortion/

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 Post subject: Re: A Post 8th Amendment world.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:49 pm 
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Fek me, I never knew FG were a United Ireland party. When did that happen!
And hasn't Harris come a long way in 2 or so years...he used to be anti-abortion. He's a raving pro abortion fundamentalist at this stage.

Who's paying for this by the way?


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 Post subject: Re: A Post 8th Amendment world.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:28 pm 
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FreeFallin wrote:
Fek me, I never knew FG were a United Ireland party. When did that happen!


I never knew they were a lot of things, the next election will be interesting

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Who's paying for his by the way?


His or this ?

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 Post subject: Re: A Post 8th Amendment world.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:22 am 
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FreeFallin wrote:
Fek me, I never knew FG were a United Ireland party. When did that happen!
And hasn't Harris come a long way in 2 or so years...he used to be anti-abortion. He's a raving pro abortion fundamentalist at this stage.

Who's paying for his by the way?


who is paying?

https://twitter.com/DrCollins10/status/ ... 9813625857

those who enjoy broadsheet can get the same story here
https://www.broadsheet.ie/2018/05/02/to ... h-service/

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 Post subject: Re: A Post 8th Amendment world.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:57 am 
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You betcha! Our campaign doesn’t stop here. Thinking of all the women travelling from Northern Ireland for abortion care today. We won’t stop until we have safe and legal abortion access for women across the island of Ireland. #together4yes
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