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 Post subject: Re: France, popular revolt (Yellow Vests) What's going on?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:57 pm 
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Macrons authority is in pieces therefore he is finished. I think that's about the only clear thing right now. It's only a matter of when he steps down.

He is after all the establishment/globalists boy/pet. So this being a cool revolution of the (OSS) regime change variety would seem counter intuitive but then from the chaos a new order of the old guard is always waiting in the wings, you can never really know.

Time will tell.

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 Post subject: Re: France, popular revolt (Yellow Vests) What's going on?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:07 am 
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Tragic story from France

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A 66-year-old Irish lecturer was killed in front of students from the university where he had taught for 20 years in the Paris suburb of Courbevoie on Wednesday.

A former student, a Pakistani citizen aged 37, who was expelled from the school last year is in police custody in connection with the killing.

The victim has been identified as John Dowling, who taught English and international relations at the university. The Department of Foreign Affairs is providing consular assistance.

Mr Dowling was due to retire at the end of the academic year. He taught at the Pôle Universitaire Léonard-de-Vinci, a private university located in La Défense business district, 8km northwest of Paris. There are 8,000 students enrolled at the university, which offers a bachelor’s programme in management for foreign students.

The suspected killer enrolled in the management school in September 2016 and was told in August 2017 that he could not continue because he failed the final examination.


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-a ... -1.3721583

This bit caught my attention...

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The far right-wing leader Marine Le Pen, who has built her career on opposition to Muslims and immigration, tweeted: “It is with horror that we learn of the death of a teacher at Courbevoie, in front of his school, with his throat slit by a former student. A threshold has been crossed in the barbarity that contaminates our country, and which spreads amid total indifference by the government.”

A person using the handle Hyepod tweeted back: “Mr John Dowling didn’t like you and would be sad to see how you are using him to spread your hatred.”


Seems to be a possible case of 21st century western ideological infantilism coming face to face with the consequence of its own naivety.

The time may be soon be aproaching when persons of a more mature disposition are forced to take possession of the wheel from those who've been charting the direction in which our culture has travelled for the past couple of decades....in much the same way as parents on behalf of children who simply dont know any better.

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 Post subject: Re: France, popular revolt (Yellow Vests) What's going on?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:38 am 
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The last time these people mobilized politically the Republic collapsed. At the end of the Fourth.


If we get another 'new republic' in France, how will it differ from the current incarnation ?


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 Post subject: Re: France, popular revolt (Yellow Vests) What's going on?
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Seems to be a possible case of 21st century western ideological infantilism coming face to face with the consequence of its own naivety.

The time may be soon be aproaching when persons of a more mature disposition are forced to take possession of the wheel from those who've been charting the direction in which our culture has travelled for the past couple of decades....in much the same way as parents on behalf of children who simply dont know any better.

Well in Frances case that infantilization seems the most advanced.
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But then when I hear talk of banning Fairytale of New York on Irish radio I know the silliness is, like measles, contagious.

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 Post subject: Re: France, popular revolt (Yellow Vests) What's going on?
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London rioted in 2011.

Paris riots in 2018.


Everyone wants to see it as ideological because it's French (even the French do), especially as it is mainly white people doing it.

It's just thuggery folks, yawn and move along.


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 Post subject: Re: France, popular revolt (Yellow Vests) What's going on?
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It's just thuggery folks, yawn and move along.

Yip, the PSNI call the annual riots around the glorious 12th Recreational Violence.

Was chatting with a bobby in England who makes handy overtime every year supplementing the PSNI.

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 Post subject: Re: France, popular revolt (Yellow Vests) What's going on?
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catbear wrote:
Skippy 3 wrote:

It's just thuggery folks, yawn and move along.

Yip, the PSNI call the annual riots around the glorious 12th Recreational Violence.

Was chatting with a bobby in England who makes handy overtime every year supplementing the PSNI.


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Previous LInk: https://youtu.be/wK8b4plAlJQ
Alt LInk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... K8b4plAlJQ

8 on 1 - relatively even handed. :|



Well done them , maybe they broke ranks...

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Police syndicate Vigi announces a strike for this Saturday. Refuses to attack the people. First indications that the #Police #CRS and the French army are now openly turning against #Macron.

https://twitter.com/XiuXes/status/1070387138846515200

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17th Nov



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 Post subject: Re: France, popular revolt (Yellow Vests) What's going on?
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Never one to shirk responsibility for defending those in Government, Stephen Collins writes today in the IT in fulsome support of Macron

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/emma ... -1.3721289
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While politicians are routinely denounced and derided for their lack of vision the events in France over the past few weeks have demonstrated the hazards that lie in wait for leaders who take their courage in their hands and attempt to chart a new course for their societies.....

....The setback suffered by Macron is a salutary lesson for political leaders around Europe as they try to devise the best policies to deal with climate change and other major challenges such as immigration, where the public may not be in tune with what needs to be done....

....Closer to home when Minister for Finance Paschal Donohoe unveiled his budget in the Dáil back in October he was widely criticised, including in this column, for his decision not to raise the price of diesel or do anything else of significance with regard to climate change.
Looking at how events have played out in France, the conclusion must be that Donohoe was politically wise to approach the issue cautiously and wait until the public is persuaded of the need for higher carbon taxes before setting off down that road....

....When Ireland was threatened with financial collapse back in the 2008-2010 period a range of severe measures which had a direct impact on the incomes of most people were taken.
There were no riots on the streets and, if anything, a general acceptance that pain had to be endured as the price of national survival. There was, though, a massive political price and the Fianna Fáil government which implemented the cutbacks was trounced in 2011. In politics there is often no reward for doing the right thing.


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 Post subject: Re: France, popular revolt (Yellow Vests) What's going on?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:48 pm 
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This really has been a very slow motion disaster. Playing out for close to 20 years. The real tragedy is that the financial crisis happened at the beginning of Sarkozys term, not the end. With different timing Sarkozy would have been able to push through the needed reforms. He was given just enough space by the other side to try to pull off a Mendes France. Now too late. And Macron has zero of the political skills of a Sarkozy or even a DSK. The only other guy who could have succeeded politically in pushing through the necessary reforms.


In your opinion what are the necessary reforms?


Well ten years ago I would have said that the plan outlined in Sarkozys book "Ensemble ", if 70% plus of the proposed reforms were forced through, would put France on the right track. After 2008 even though both Sarkozy and the DSK wing of the PS made a valiant attempt to try to put together realistic plans all are doomed to fail due to the lost years due to the financial crisis and the straitjacket of the euro. Macrons "reforms" are just a rehash of the DSK/PS plans wrapped in EU-Speak so are doomed to fail. They solve nothing.

So just more drift and lost years until the Germans pull the plug on the current Euro.


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