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 Post subject: Apple forced to scrap €850 million data centre - Athenry
PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 9:22 am 
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Apple scraps plan for €850 million data centre in Athenry

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/tec ... -1.3490316

looks like the NIMBYs won


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 Post subject: Re: Ireland BIG DATA centre of the world.
PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 9:29 am 
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Apple scraps plan for €850 million data centre in Athenry

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/tec ... -1.3490316

looks like the NIMBYs won



How long before Athenry residents are blaming the government for not bringing jobs to the 'forgotten' parts of Ireland ?
What's important to understand is that it's not just Apple that have left, it's anyone else considering investing there.
No major employer is going to risk getting bogged down in basic planning issues.


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 Post subject: Re: Ireland BIG DATA centre of the world.
PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 10:20 am 
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No major employer is going to risk getting bogged down in basic planning issues.


They wont have to, they can apply directly to an bord pleanala who will dutifully rubber stamp whatever plans they have.

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 Post subject: Re: Ireland BIG DATA centre of the world.
PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 10:25 am 
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mr_anderson wrote:
TheJackal wrote:
Apple scraps plan for €850 million data centre in Athenry

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/tec ... -1.3490316

looks like the NIMBYs won



How long before Athenry residents are blaming the government for not bringing jobs to the 'forgotten' parts of Ireland ?
What's important to understand is that it's not just Apple that have left, it's anyone else considering investing there.
No major employer is going to risk getting bogged down in basic planning issues.

The vast majority of residents of Athenry were for this scheme. It was one guy and his partner who objected, the crazy thing was that he wasn't against having the data center, he just wanted Apple to develop it on land that he was connected to.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland ... -1.3322548

Meanwhile, Denmark gets a second Apple data center, the first was announced at the same time as the one in Athenry, but is already built.

You are correct to state, the reputational damage to Ireland here is just awful.


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 Post subject: Re: Ireland BIG DATA centre of the world.
PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 11:31 am 
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This really ties in with the legal thread.

The original application was lodged in April 2015, and re-approved by ABP after appeal in August 2016. That's not great but hardly excessive for such a large development.

Since then it has spent almost two years in the courts, partly due to a shortage of judges.

Now, whilst the legal profession can hardly be accused of excessive concern for productivity in the administration of justice, it's surely a government responsibility to ensure sufficient capacity in the system.

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 Post subject: Re: Apple forced to scrap €850 million data centre - Athenry
PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:03 pm 
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One of the objectors to Apple’s Athenry data centre is facing a €22 million claim from Ulster Bank over unpaid loans.

The bank is seeking judgment against three brothers over money given to them to buy an 80 acre site in Wicklow where it was proposed to develop a data centre.


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 Post subject: Re: Apple forced to scrap €850 million data centre - Athenry
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One of the objectors to Apple’s Athenry data centre is facing a €22 million claim from Ulster Bank over unpaid loans.

The bank is seeking judgment against three brothers over money given to them to buy an 80 acre site in Wicklow where it was proposed to develop a data centre.


https://www.irishtimes.com/business/com ... -1.3559261

:twisted: This gombeenisim, greed, selfishness, canny McSavvyness and cute horeness is why we cant have nice things.

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 Post subject: Re: Apple forced to scrap €850 million data centre - Athenry
PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:17 pm 
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Terra Incognita wrote:
Mossy_Heneberry wrote:
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One of the objectors to Apple’s Athenry data centre is facing a €22 million claim from Ulster Bank over unpaid loans.

The bank is seeking judgment against three brothers over money given to them to buy an 80 acre site in Wicklow where it was proposed to develop a data centre.


https://www.irishtimes.com/business/com ... -1.3559261

:twisted: This gombeenisim, greed, selfishness, canny McSavvyness and cute horeness is why we cant have nice things.



If he'd been junior minister for something at the time you wonder how far he would have gotten.....


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 Post subject: Re: Apple forced to scrap €850 million data centre - Athenry
PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:25 pm 
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owenm wrote:
Terra Incognita wrote:
Mossy_Heneberry wrote:
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One of the objectors to Apple’s Athenry data centre is facing a €22 million claim from Ulster Bank over unpaid loans.

The bank is seeking judgment against three brothers over money given to them to buy an 80 acre site in Wicklow where it was proposed to develop a data centre.


https://www.irishtimes.com/business/com ... -1.3559261

:twisted: This gombeenisim, greed, selfishness, canny McSavvyness and cute horeness is why we cant have nice things.



If he'd been junior minister for something at the time you wonder how far he would have gotten.....


Welcome to Apple's Wicklow facility

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 Post subject: Re: Apple forced to scrap €850 million data centre - Athenry
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You need to go north of the border to experience true corruption - 1970’s Ireland pales into insignificance.


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 Post subject: Re: Apple forced to scrap €850 million data centre - Athenry
PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:24 pm 
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Terra Incognita wrote:
Mossy_Heneberry wrote:
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One of the objectors to Apple’s Athenry data centre is facing a €22 million claim from Ulster Bank over unpaid loans.

The bank is seeking judgment against three brothers over money given to them to buy an 80 acre site in Wicklow where it was proposed to develop a data centre.


https://www.irishtimes.com/business/com ... -1.3559261

:twisted: This gombeenisim, greed, selfishness, canny McSavvyness and cute horeness is why we cant have nice things.


What the F were the banks doing giving a loan for 22 million on land worth 1.5million?

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