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 Post subject: Re: Tesla - Pimping Elon's Ride?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:28 pm 
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European Car of the year nominations
No Tesla but the is an EV nominated
The Jaguar i Pace

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/car ... -2019.html

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Eligible cars must be brand new models, some of which are on sale now, and available in at least five European countries.

Model 3 not eligible but it's going to hit Europe in a big way in the 2nd half of 2019.


It will be a big success in Europe but they will also have some competition this time, the new Kona from Hyundai is an excellent EV, anyone buying a Model 3 should take a good look at it, not as good looking as the Model 3 but it might win on price


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 Post subject: Re: Tesla - Pimping Elon's Ride?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:17 am 
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the new Kona from Hyundai is an excellent EV, anyone buying a Model 3 should take a good look at it, not as good looking as the Model 3 but it might win on price

The one with the decent engine and range will be about 39k, I'd imagine. The equivalent performance petrol turbo is 32k.

I'd guess you'd be saving about 10c/km plus 600/year on motor tax.

So the breakeven point for my high use case (30k km/year) would be less than 2 years. It'd have completely paid for itself in fuel savings after about 10 years, which is about how long I'd keep a new car.

I'd almost get one if I had any faith in the range figures (EPA highway range is 360km at 78kph average, but I'd guess it'll be much worse at higher speeds). I have to be able to do 300km at ~80mph (Irish motorway speeds) in a day without recharging, and for that I don't think the Kona would come close.

Any of the Model 3s except the SR* models would though...

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 Post subject: Re: Tesla - Pimping Elon's Ride?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:21 am 
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Used Teslas are starting to appear on the Irish market.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars/Tesla/

50k for a Tesla Model S 85, 2014 with 100k on the clock.

How much was that new?

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 Post subject: Re: Tesla - Pimping Elon's Ride?
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Would you buy a used car from this man? Let alone a new one.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tesla-ceo-elon-musk-the-2018-60-minutes-interview/

The interview is just a big a train-wreck as the rumors kicking around LA just after shooting implied.

Like all good con men Musk has complete and total contempt for everyone who falls for his con. But it seems he is planning to go out in a blaze of glory, just before the Feds arrived with the handcuffs..


https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/nov/25/elon-musk-move-mars-chance-of-death





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 Post subject: Re: Tesla - Pimping Elon's Ride?
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I watched the 15 minute interview. It wasn't that bad. I though he seems like a normal person under a bit of stress.

The main parts were a series of close up reaction shots as the friendly and mild mannered journalist lady flips it and starts asking him a series of tough questions.


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 Post subject: Re: Tesla - Pimping Elon's Ride?
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Some people just don't get electric vehicles. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Tesla - Pimping Elon's Ride?
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Check it out! Elon Musk, back in 1999.
https://youtu.be/oJkiRZ-bAlo?t=596


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 Post subject: Re: Tesla - Pimping Elon's Ride?
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jmc wrote:
Would you buy a used car from this man? Let alone a new one.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tesla-ceo-elon-musk-the-2018-60-minutes-interview/

The interview is just a big a train-wreck as the rumors kicking around LA just after shooting implied.

Like all good con men Musk has complete and total contempt for everyone who falls for his con. But it seems he is planning to go out in a blaze of glory, just before the Feds arrived with the handcuffs..


https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/nov/25/elon-musk-move-mars-chance-of-death





A conman that created PayPal, SpaceX, Tesla and now The Boring Company.
He might be a bit 'out there' but I guess that's why he does what he does.


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 Post subject: Re: Tesla - Pimping Elon's Ride?
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https://futurism.com/the-byte/combustion-engine-cars-peaked-2018

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The reign of the fossil fuel-powered car may be ending.

In a report published on Sunday, several experts told the Financial Times that they believe sales of fossil fuel-powered internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles peaked in 2018, meaning that it’s unlikely that more ICE cars will be sold in any future year— and if they’re correct, this epochal change in the auto industry could majorly benefit the environment.

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Many experts predicted at the beginning of 2018 that demand for ICE vehicles wouldn’t peak until 2022 at the earliest, according to the FT report. But a combination of several factors — including Brexit, the U.S.-China trade war, and new emissions targets in Europe — has dealt a major blow to global car sales this year.

“When you look at 2018 since the summer, new car sales in all of the important markets are going down,” Axel Schmidt, global automotive lead at Accenture, told FT. “Selling combustion engine cars to customers — this will not grow in the future.”

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