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 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:19 pm 
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"Many tribunal witnesses not telling the truth" says Supreme Court Judge !
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 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:27 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
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 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:16 pm 
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After six years of investigation, GSOC produce a 36 page nothing-burger on Ian Bailey's complaints about the investigation into the Toscan du Plantier murder. Amazing amounts of vital evidence in the biggest murder case have gone AWOL:

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The missing exhibits included:
a) a blood-spattered gate taken from close to where Madame Toscan Du Plantier's body was found,
b) a French wine bottle found four months after the murder in a field next to the scene,
c) a black overcoat belonging to Ian Bailey,
d) the original memo of interview of Jules Thomas following her arrest in 1997,
e) an original witness statement from Marie Farrell provided on 5 March 2004,
f) an original witness statement from Jules Thomas dated 19 February 1997
In total 139 original witness statements were either missing or not held by the garda Síochána.


To top this litany of inexplicable failure, GSOC found that many key pages had been physically ripped out of the Jobs Book (the contemporaneous Garda record of the investigation ).

Nonetheless, GSOC concludes that all this shows is "a lack of administration and management of the incident room (even when viewed through the lens of the time) as opposed to clear evidence of malpractice or corruption."

What a relief! Otherwise there'd be another six years wasted trying to pin "malpractice" on some serving Garda who would later be pensioned off just before any final decision.

What orgy of incompetence could rise to the level that GSOC would deem "malpractice" ?
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And, of course, nothing on earth will get GSOC to say "corruption". As usual, we are told they found "no evidence of high-level corruption" and, hey presto, the media treats this as "no corruption". The Indo and the IT haven't even bothered to report this but RTE has a quote from Frank Buttimer, Bailey's solicitor:

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He said making a complaint to GSOC appeared to be a completely wasted exercise on the part of Mr Bailey.

Speaking to RTÉ News, Mr Buttimer described GSOC as a toothless organisation which lacks the appropriate investigative powers and is not fit for purpose.


https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2018/08 ... -plantier/


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 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:42 am 
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Yeah it looks like GSOC have been nobbled.

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 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:51 am 
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Dermot Walsh, formerly Prof. of Law in U.Limerick and a leading advocate for Garda accountability, has a devastating critique of GSOC's latest reports in today's IT.


These reports give no closure to the complainants: Worse still :

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A negative outcome conveys the impression, often unfairly, that there is no truth to the allegations.


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A radical rethink of the current cumbersome, limited and time-consuming procedure is necessary to render it fit for purpose. This must also encompass the development of a complaints mechanism that can take a holistic approach to the investigation of alleged failings across the policing and criminal justice agencies



Beginning of the end for GSOC.

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/gsoc ... -1.3585708


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 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 12:15 pm 
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I keep thinking of Abbeylara too. When there's a crime Garda strategy seems to be to focus on the local strange person/outsider and harass them. I'm sure they're sometimes right. But it's so prone to miscarriage of justice and death. All they're lies and coverups stem from their certainty at the outset of their investigation. They never got the irony Inspector Renault's Casablanca instruction to Round up the usual suspects.


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 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:02 pm 
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Gardai carrying out 'ongoing' search at Garda station in Rathkeale, Limerick [

A search is being carried out on a Garda station in Co Limerick this morning.

It is believed that up to 30 officers are taking part in the raid at Rathkeale Garda Station, which started on Thursday evening.

Searches were continuing this morning.


https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-n ... h-13366855

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 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:44 pm 
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Gardai carrying out 'ongoing' search at Garda station in Rathkeale, Limerick [

A search is being carried out on a Garda station in Co Limerick this morning.

It is believed that up to 30 officers are taking part in the raid at Rathkeale Garda Station, which started on Thursday evening.

Searches were continuing this morning.


https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-n ... h-13366855



oops gone!

wonder if the gardai will let it be known that they are investigating another blasphemous speech to divert attention?

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Garda lifted for suspected insurance fraud

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 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:16 pm 
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It is great to see that instructional video on top of that page: "Being arrested: What are your rights".

That's what I call proper advise for your readers!
None of that softy-BS life advise bollocks that the paper of record gives you, like Cosy Autumn evenings, Guilty Feminists and days off


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 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:24 pm 
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It is believed the garda, stationed in Rathkeale, is suspected of involvement with a scam run by criminals living in the Co Limerick area.
Gardai also searched a halting site nearby as well as 16 houses seizing phones, documents and two cars.


when you have so much time on your hands....


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 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:37 pm 
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All credit to The Mirror and The Sun, they named the town an the cop shop. And also that it was a halting site in which the raids took place.
The Indo, IT and RTE 6pm news all went with 'limerick area' and a more general term of 'residences' for their coverage. No points for even guessing what The Journal went with, the saps!


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 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
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Tribunal shows what a pure scumbag Callanan was:

Disclosures tribunal: Martin Callinan told TD that Maurice McCabe was sex abuser, tribunal finds

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-a ... -1.3660053

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 Post subject: Re: If you're the police, who'll police the police?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:10 pm 
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Definitely worth a read:

http://www.disclosuretribunal.ie/en/DIS ... Report.pdf

The media will focus on the juicy bits but there is also wisdom and common sense:

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The police should acknowledge, through proper promotion, the talent of those among them. The
tribunal does not have to spell it out beyond a requirement that the promotions system should be
freed from whatever ties it to not always promoting excellence.


And Judge Charleton is not blind to daily life:

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the extraordinary aspect of our police force is that they keep themselves isolated in police
stations and then transport themselves around in squad cars. It is extraordinarily rare that gardaí
are seen in uniform on the streets. In undertaking hundreds of journeys between the Four Courts
and Dublin Castle during the currency of the tribunal, on only one occasion was there a policeman
to stop a taxi or car breaking through a pedestrian light.


He was Counsel on the Morris Tribunal over a decade ago and now he finds himself repeating the Morris Tribunal findings:

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Regrettably, the Tribunal has sat through a year of evidence and read thousands of
documents and, as a result, has come to the conclusion that An Garda Síochána is losing
its character as a disciplined force. This is detrimental to the morale of members who wish
to serve within the context of a police force that has a proud record. It is undermining
respect for authority both within the force, and in relation to those who have to interact
with it, on whatever basis.
Ultimately, the gradual erosion of discipline within An Garda Síochána is a developing
situation that will, sooner or later, lead to disaster.623
This tribunal remains deeply concerned in the same way.


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